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Wow, two new writers in a row! (nm) by
on 2023-03-28 18:39:00 UTC
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[dusts off Hat] by
on 2023-03-28 18:18:41 UTC
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Do I know you? Seen you around for a while. Check.
Your agents. You've got some interesting concepts here, and they feel quite grounded as characters, with the potential for some great moments where their respective pasts and personalities can play off each other. Which brings me to...
Your writing sample. Already I feel like I got a good sense for who Melody and Florence are and how they work together as partners. I like the friendly banter between them, how you play with the text format mid-sentence as they revert the Words from italics to normal, and the very abused and barely-working CAD held together by duct tape and a prayer adds even more levity to the sample. (And can I just say, the implication that the hairdryer has a flamethrower setting got a genuine laugh out loud from me?)
If I had to sum up the writing sample, it feels like a throwback to Jay and Acacia—which is a good thing! It's classic PPC. You have a solid start to the mission and I'd love to see more of it.
SPaG. Looks good. Checkmark.
And last but not least...
Fic to be sporked. I had no idea this was one of the infamous Pakura fics clicking in, but hoo boy. You've definitely picked a zinger in this one.
Best of luck in handling it... which is to say, PERMISSION GRANTED!
Have fun, remember your Bleeprin, and may your agents' first outing be a success!
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Permission request by
on 2023-03-28 17:39:56 UTC
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Welp, here we go. Been working on this for a while.
Here are my agent profiles and writing sample. I got a bit carried away so it's quite long, but feel free to stop at the first [BEEEEEEEP] or when they head into the mission.
Here is the fic I plan to spork first. Nominally, it's a Yandere Simulator fanfiction. It has Pokémon "references" (not!Ash Ketchum is the main sue's husband) and Danganronpa "references" (Ayano is the ultimate cosplayer and goes to a Hope's Peak High knockoff). Despite spending so much time going on about how great Ayano's new adoptive family is, they still fail to make the group of overpowered rich murderous assassins sympathetic. I plan to spork until the end of chapter one, since the chapters are pretty big and that would still keep it a nice digestible size for me. Chapter one is where most of the terribleness happens anyway.
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There's a Discord link on the other newbie's intro page, you could use that. (nm) by
on 2023-03-28 16:11:00 UTC
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Discord Link by
on 2023-03-28 15:58:12 UTC
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Welcome! Here is your invite to the Discord. It will expire about 12 hours from the time of this post.
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Long time PPC lurker wants to say hello by
on 2023-03-28 15:53:42 UTC
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Thank ya for the bridge! A invite to Discord please?
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Welcome, Ravy! by
on 2023-03-28 15:39:47 UTC
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Nice to meet you! Have a shrinkable bridge.
Hope to see you around!
-Ls
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Long time PPC lurker wants to say hello by
on 2023-03-28 15:20:23 UTC
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Hello!
You can call me Ravy, wished to join this community since I always liked the idea of PPC and their works
Sometime in the future, I wish to write a agent pair, even if I m not that great of a author
Wish to join the Discord too
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Whoops. ^_^; by
on 2023-03-28 15:17:55 UTC
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I, uh, got "By Those He Trusted" mixed up with "Son of...", which DOES feature Alec (but still doesn't credit Kippur {I will fix that on Lost Tales eventually}).
I guess it's possible that Calista did the same thing when she made Taboo's wiki page, before it was a redirect...?
I checked over the Geocities site and couldn't find anything, either. I don't REMEMBER anyone named Taboo, but if she's not a complete invention, it's always possible she was someone who hung around only briefly, or knew Deepy or Leto from somewhere else.
~Neshomeh's brain might still be slightly borked.
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Oof. by
on 2023-03-28 12:45:14 UTC
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And I thought it was bad having this Dafydd Cyhoeddwr character stealing my agents - yours don't even exist!
I've never seen the Pit or the Board in the opening answer before, so that's new. It's interesting, but not surprising, that it doubled down so hard on its lies - first there was a Pokemon fic called "Blank Sprite", then it might be a PPC mission target, then it's a specific mission with Rina and Jack. ChatGPT does this - it insists its own version of events is correct, and digs itself deeper and deeper. (If you asked a fresh instance if Rina and Jack were partners, it definitely wouldn't go "yes, they work in Pokemon, Blank Sprite was their mission".)
It does also seem to like making agent pairs of one obvious PPCer, one invented one. I had Verra Rose and Savannah earlier; my guess is it's being contaminated by other instances of "Rina and Jack" or "Rose and Savannah". It wouldn't take much.
To try and make you feel better, I asked my "Dafydd Cyhoeddwr" instance about your trio:
Who are Agents Sergio and Nikki of the PPC?
Agents Sergio Turbo and Nikki Cherryflower are two PPC agents who specialize in dealing with badfics from the "Fast and the Furious" and "Twilight" fandoms, respectively. They are partners and work together frequently, often appearing in stories together. Sergio is known for his laid-back, sarcastic personality and his love of cars, while Nikki is a skilled fighter and is often seen wielding her signature weapon, a set of sai. Together, they make a formidable team and are known for their ability to take down badfics with ease.
(That's... tolerable? It got their surnames, Sergio's car connection, and Nikki with weapons from the right side of the world. At least you can see it's heard of them.)
Who created Sergio and Nikki?
Agents Sergio and Nikki were created by PPC authors Tawaki and Huinesoron, respectively. Tawaki is known for her work in the "Fast and the Furious" fandom, while Huinesoron is a prolific writer who has contributed to many different fandoms within the PPC. Both authors have written a number of stories featuring their respective agents, and Sergio and Nikki have also appeared in collaborations between the two authors.
(Oh dear XD. In this instance's delusions, it originally thought Agent Tawaki was created by Dafydd Cyhoeddwr and was Agent Dafydd's wife; it then realised that Agent Tawaki, still female, was created by Huinesoron. Huinesoron also co-created Agent Jay, with Acacia Byrd, and wrote the story "A Dreadful Era" with Morgan and Jay time-travelling to the founding of Hogwarts. We've not heard of Author!Tawaki before.)
Do Sergio and Nikki get on with Agent Corolla?
Agent Corolla is a character created by the same author as Agent Sergio, so in-universe, they get along quite well. The two characters have appeared together in a number of stories, and their personalities complement each other nicely. However, as for Agent Nikki, since she comes from a different author, it depends on the specific story and author's interpretation of the character. In some stories, the three agents have worked together seamlessly, while in others there may be tension or disagreement between them.
(Sorry, Tawaki stole Corolla too XD. It's nice that it seems to recognise they work as a team, but honestly I think the question just led it to that conclusion. There's no details there to suggest it actually knows anything.)
What PPC agents were created by the author Sergio Turbo?
Sergio Turbo is a PPC author who has created several agents, including:
Agent Sergio Turbo - A human agent with a love of cars and a tendency to break things.
Agent Bella Turbo - A human agent and Sergio's wife. She is an expert in hand-to-hand combat.
Agent Tarasov - A Russian human agent with a talent for interrogation.
Agent Alenka - A Russian human agent who specializes in the Lord of the Rings fandom.
Agent Carolina - A human agent who specializes in the Pirates of the Caribbean fandom.
Agent J - A human agent who is skilled in espionage and infiltration.
Agent Geranium - A half-elf agent who is an expert in elvish culture and language.
Agent Cuddy - A human nurse who was recruited from the House fandom to work in the Medical Department of the PPC.
These are just a few of the agents created by Sergio Turbo. Each one has their own unique personality and skills, and they all contribute to the PPC in their own way.
(Oh yeah, Tarasov and Alenka were my favourite of your teams. Agent J is clearly a refugee from "Men in Black". But you've also claimed both Sergio and Cuddy - previously written by Neshomeh - as yours. What gives, ChatGPT?)
Previously you said Agent Sergio Turbo was created by Tawaki.
I apologize for the confusion earlier. I made an error in my response. Agent Sergio Turbo was actually created by the author Sergio Turbo himself.
(Which means you get Corolla too. But Nikki is still mine - possibly you traded her for a time-travelling Bella Illian-Sims.)
You also said Agent Cuddy was created by Neshomeh.
I apologize again for my mistake. Agent Cuddy was actually created by the author Huinesoron.
(PSYCH! Cuddy the "House" fan is neither yours nor Nesh's, but mine all along. I bet she gets on well with Nikki.)
So yeah... the AI is still not doing great here. Its answers depend strongly on the phrasing of the question, and on its own previous delusions. Its natural language parsing is absolutely superb though, I can't fault that at all.
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Thanks that helps. by
on 2023-03-28 12:33:49 UTC
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Although if you were to, say, plug me into the AI and have it predict what I'll say next using my cognition as an accelerated oracle...
- Damian wants to fund transhumanists
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Trying it a bit myself. by
on 2023-03-28 11:06:14 UTC
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Since I dabbled in Ai art already, let's try this thing too.
First question, done deliberately to "set the mood" considering what I was goign to ask alter, was again like Hs asking what the PPC is.
"The Protectors of the Plot Continuum (PPC) is a fictional organization that originated from a fan fiction community called "The PPC Board" on the website "The Pit of Voles." The PPC is a group of agents who travel to different fictional universes to protect the integrity of the stories and prevent bad fan fiction from contaminating the canon.
The agents of the PPC are tasked with hunting down and neutralizing "Mary Sues" (overpowered, self-insert characters) and other forms of bad fan fiction, using a variety of gadgets and weapons. They also work to keep different fictional universes separate and prevent crossovers that would not make sense within the context of the original stories.
The PPC has since become a popular concept within fan fiction communities, inspiring its own fan fiction and fan art."
First paragraph gets the factual IRL stuff wrong, but oddily related: while it wasn't created on the Board (it's the other way round), the Board can be considered a "fanfiction community" and that's where the PPC is centered now. And a site called "Pit of Voles" doesn't exist, but it is interesting that it got our less-than-affectionate nickname for Fanfiction.net right. Rest of the paragraph is quite there.
Second paragraph is spot on, but the third is where things break down. We're not popular, but the spinoffs can be considered the "PPC fanfiction" to TOS, and there's some "fanart" too (as in ,art done by those who weren't involved with TOS)
All in all, I consider it a good effort, but I'll try to challenge the wrong name for the Pit.
"My apologies, I made a mistake in my previous response. While the PPC is indeed a creation of the fan fiction community, it actually originated on the website "FanFiction.net" in the early 2000s.
The PPC was initially created by Jay and Acacia, two users on FanFiction.net, as a response to the prevalence of Mary Sues and other poorly written fan fiction on the site. The concept quickly gained popularity and spawned its own community, with writers creating stories and roleplaying as agents of the PPC.
I apologize for any confusion my previous response may have caused."
That is pretty much correct - while I woudln't define Jay and Acacia finding a handful of fellow souls wanting to partake "gaining polularity", the overall level of correctness is what I would expect if I took someone unknowledgeable about the PPC and wanted them to tell me where it originated after looking it up. Not bad!
unfortunately, my PC had an hiccup, so I ended up having to do a new instance for the following questions anyway. And the first was, of course, asking the AI about my own spinoff.
"I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I do not have access to specific information about all fan fiction and spinoffs. However, based on my knowledge of the Protectors of the Plot Continuum, it is a fanfiction community that focuses on "fixing" poorly written or inconsistent stories within various fictional universes.
As for the "Wings of Canon" spinoff by Sergio Turbo, I cannot provide any information as it is not a widely known or recognized fanfiction work within the Protectors of the Plot Continuum community. It is possible that it is a lesser-known or newer addition to the community's canon, or it may not be directly related to the community at all.
If you have any further information or specific details about the work, I can try my best to provide more insight or context."
Oh, you. But I do admit my own spinoff isn't as widely recognized as others, and the fandoms it is set in are quite niche within the PPC. I then realized that my original instance was still there in the reloaded page, so I tried asking about my first "big" PPC work, Blank Sprite.
"I'm sorry, but as a language model, I don't have access to all the information about every story ever written. I also cannot browse the internet. However, I can tell you that "Blank Sprite" is the title of a fan fiction story in the Pokémon fandom that was posted on the website FanFiction.net.
Unfortunately, without more context, it's difficult to provide more information about the story. If you have any specific details or questions about "Blank Sprite" or any other topic, feel free to ask and I'll do my best to provide an answer."
This is interesting. It warns me it doesn't have informations about it, and that it cannot browse the internet... before then making up completely that Blank Sprite is a Pokémon fanfiction publishe on the Pit. I decided to provide feedback on that detail, and I got given a possible alternative answer.
"I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I do not have access to all of the information on the internet, including information about specific stories such as "Blank Sprite."
However, based on my knowledge of the PPC, it is likely that "Blank Sprite" is a fan fiction story that was deemed problematic by the organization due to its negative impact on the canon or its use of Mary Sues. The PPC often targets stories like these in order to protect the integrity of the original work and maintain consistency within the fictional universe.
If you have any more specific information about "Blank Sprite," please let me know and I will do my best to provide you with an answer."
This... is arguably worse. It is now claiming that the "grand finale" of my main PPC spinoff is a badfic tageted by the PPC! Of course, that means that "neither answer is better.", and I provided some more context in my following input.
The result was... entertaining.
"Thank you for the correction and additional information. I apologize for the confusion in my previous response.
As you mentioned, "Blank Sprite" is a story in the Protectors of the Plot Continuum (PPC) fandom, written by Sergio Turbo as the final story of the "Wings of Canon" spinoff. The PPC is a fan fiction community centered around the idea of agents who travel to different fictional universes to protect their integrity and prevent bad fan fiction from contaminating the canon. The "Wings of Canon" spinoff is a series of stories set within the PPC universe.
In "Blank Sprite," two agents of the PPC, Rina and Jack, are sent to a fictional universe based on the video game "Pokemon" to investigate a Mary Sue character who is disrupting the story. The story includes various references to the Pokemon canon, as well as action and humor typical of the PPC fandom.
I hope this additional information helps provide a better understanding of the story you were asking about."
The AI seems to still be convinced that Pokemons are involved, and so it did the connection that The Aviator is involved (but still calls them "Rina"). There might've been some linking by the fact The Aviator's partner is indeed a Pokemon, but curiously doesn't involve Zeb himself but a "Jack". Also, a bit of link with Aviator comes from the fact my main cast did meet Iximaz' own in a couple occasions. The Ai also seems convinced it was just a regular mission, which... I can't really blame it about since by its own earlier admission it has no data about my spinoffs. Still, let's try to poke it further!
"I apologize for the confusion. You are correct that Rina is a character created by the PPC writer Iximaz and not by Sergio Turbo. I was mistaken in my previous response.
As for the character named Jack, you are also correct that there are several characters with that name in the PPC universe. Without further information, it's unclear which Jack character the author of "Blank Sprite" was referring to.
I apologize for any confusion my previous response may have caused, and I appreciate you bringing these errors to my attention."
So, the Ai admitted its mistake when I pointed out I didn't write Iximaz, and admitted it had no idea which Jack "I" was using in Blank Sprite. However, it didn't make up any detail about why I would've borrowed Aviator for this story. One last poke telling the AI about Sergio Turbo's actual characters!
"I apologize for any confusion my previous responses may have caused. To the best of my knowledge, Sergio Turbo is not known for creating any PPC agents named after himself or his friends. Therefore, it's unlikely that characters named Sergio, Nikki, and Corolla appeared in the PPC story "Blank Sprite" or any other PPC stories.
However, I should note that the PPC is a collaborative fan fiction community, and writers often create and share their own original characters within the PPC universe. It's possible that Sergio Turbo or other writers may have created characters with these names for their own PPC stories or spinoffs.
If you have any additional information or context regarding these characters or stories, feel free to share, and I'll do my best to provide accurate information."
The AI considered unlikely that I created.. my main trio. Yeah. However, it dos admit they might still exist.
And I'm cutting it here, 'cause Corolla is likely planning digital murder right now. She isn't happy hearing that somewhere, someone is saying her firends weren't the heroes of the Blank Sprite Incident.
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Waaaaaait, what? by
on 2023-03-28 08:05:23 UTC
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That's a three-agent mission with Dee (Deepy), Milask (Leto), and Taboo (... kippur?). Alec ain't in it. If you've got anything that states kippur as a cowriter, then she has to be Taboo. In any case, she must be someone, and I don't believe we've ever had anyone by that name.
I've glanced through the Geocities site (including its guestbook) and Misssandman.com, and I can't find anything linking this story to kippur. Any ideas?
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I've just had some training at work... by
on 2023-03-28 07:57:21 UTC
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... which accidentally defined AI as "ability of machine to imitate inelegant human behaviour". I think that's beautiful. ^_^
hS
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Inasuke + Momoka mission! by
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As part of his and Urato's race to obtain a Pennacook Club membership to show Kaguya up, Ina enlists his admired Shigisawa-sempai for help. Featuring yet another reference to that Fukuzawa Yukichi quote; a donut for anyone successfully spotting it.
-Yuki thinks that Tirami-Sue sounds like a good name for a PPC dessert
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Gasp! Thank you! (nm) by
on 2023-03-28 06:03:29 UTC
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Okay, that makes sense. (nm) by
on 2023-03-28 06:00:41 UTC
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Huh. I'm not sure. by
on 2023-03-28 05:16:00 UTC
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The one mission Taboo appears in is a co-write between Deepy (Agent Dee) and Kippur (Agent Alec), and in the authors' note they say, "we don’t even own Taboo (who belongs to herself)."
I don't know whether that means Taboo was someone else's namesake character they borrowed, or an NPC they made up.
Either way, I've cribbed her for a mission with Ilraen, though. That Farscape fic I ranted about last year. >.>
~Neshomeh, like Rygel, doesn't tell jokes. (Watch to 3:47. ^_~ )
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Extremely tangential question, but uh . . . by
on 2023-03-28 04:26:38 UTC
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I'm in the midst of switching "Kippur" to "User:Kippur," but while doing so, I noticed the glossary is currently attributing Agent Taboo as a Kippur character. That doesn't sound right, does it? When I was doing that big edit spree tracking down all Kippur's PPC stories years ago, I don't recall seeing Taboo get mentioned anywhere on Kippur's many, many, MANY websites. But I'm also very ready for bed, and can't look into it further at the moment. Can anyone confirm a known author for Taboo?
—doctorlit doesn't have time to write a joke in this signature
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Fun! I'm having difficulty logging in without a phone number, though, so I have no chats so far. -Ls (nm) by
on 2023-03-27 22:55:01 UTC
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Ay, congratulations! (nm) by
on 2023-03-27 15:55:11 UTC
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ChatPPC: Is the PPC evil? by
on 2023-03-27 12:18:05 UTC
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(Continuing the chat with the same instance that told the story.)
Is the PPC evil?
No, the PPC is not evil. The PPC is an organization created by fans of various fictional universes to protect those universes from the negative effects of poorly written fanfiction. Their goal is to ensure that the integrity of the original stories is maintained and to prevent any alterations or distortions to the established canon. While the PPC employs some extreme measures to accomplish their goals, they do not seek to harm anyone and operate under a set of guidelines to ensure that they do not cause unnecessary harm to characters or individuals.
Is the Canon Defender in the PPC story "Department of Mary Sues: The Lord of the Rings" evil?
No, the Canon Defender in "Department of Mary Sues: The Lord of the Rings" is not evil. The Canon Defender is a character who works for the PPC and is responsible for ensuring that the original canon of a work is maintained. While the Canon Defender in this particular story is portrayed as being harsh and unsympathetic towards Mary Sue, they are simply doing their job and trying to prevent any further damage to the original canon caused by Mary Sue's presence. Ultimately, the Canon Defender is on the same side as the rest of the PPC and is working towards the same goal of protecting the integrity of the fictional universes they are tasked with defending.
But he was going to kill Mary Sue!
Yes, it is true that the Canon Defender in "Department of Mary Sues: The Lord of the Rings" was planning to kill Mary Sue. However, it's important to remember that the PPC operates under a different set of rules and ethics than our world. In their universe, the Canon is considered sacred, and any deviation from it is seen as a serious offense. In extreme cases where a Mary Sue poses a significant threat to the canon, the PPC may resort to extreme measures to eliminate the threat.
While it may seem harsh to us, it's important to understand that the PPC's mission is to protect the integrity of the original stories, and they take their job very seriously. However, it's worth noting that not all PPC agents would resort to killing a Mary Sue, and there are guidelines and rules in place to ensure that agents do not cause unnecessary harm.
Is Mary Sue from that story evil?
No, Mary Sue in "Department of Mary Sues: The Lord of the Rings" is not inherently evil. Mary Sue is a fictional character archetype that is often criticized for being overly perfect, with few flaws or weaknesses. While Mary Sue's presence in a story can be disruptive to the established canon, she is not an evil character in and of herself.
In the story, Mary Sue is portrayed as being naive and oblivious to the negative impact she has on the story and characters around her. Her actions and behavior are a result of poor writing and lack of understanding of the source material rather than any malicious intent on her part.
The PPC's goal in eliminating Mary Sue is to prevent any further damage to the original canon caused by her presence, rather than to punish her for any perceived wrongdoing.
Agent Jay was going to wipe Mary Sue's memory and personality. If Mary Sue was just naive, isn't that evil?
The actions of Agent Jay in "Department of Mary Sues: The Lord of the Rings" may seem harsh, but it's important to remember that the PPC operates under a different set of rules and ethics than our world. In their universe, the Canon is considered sacred, and any deviation from it is seen as a serious offense. In extreme cases where a Mary Sue poses a significant threat to the canon, the PPC may resort to extreme measures to eliminate the threat.
While Mary Sue's actions in the story may have been the result of poor writing and lack of understanding of the source material, the impact of her presence on the canon cannot be ignored. Agent Jay's decision to wipe Mary Sue's memory and personality was based on the belief that it was the only way to prevent further damage to the original canon caused by her presence.
Whether or not this action can be considered "evil" is a matter of interpretation, as it is a controversial and morally complex issue. However, it's worth noting that the PPC operates under a set of guidelines and rules to ensure that agents do not cause unnecessary harm and that extreme measures are only taken as a last resort.
It's interesting how well ChatPPC was able to analyse its own... er, Jay and Acacia's story. I can think of two ways it could be doing that: either it wrote its chararacters according to the same archetypes it then talks about, or the text of the current conversation is weighted highly in its learning. Either would give that output.
The illusion of thought starts to break down a bit here - how many times does it repeat that vague "guidelines and rules" caveat?
"We're evil. Miss Cam is evil. This is just sad." - TOS
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Yay, congrats! A new writer in the roster! (nm) by
on 2023-03-27 08:37:18 UTC
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