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Are you talking about the ours? It is interesting that the agents almost screw that up.

I do have one specific thing that doesn't come up all of the time, but I don't seem to have the knack for. Remember http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?id=199610;article=301458;search_term=solo because that is one case where it is perhaps right to say "I can't."

Just this morning, I found fanfiction.net/s/6922962/1/Time-abhords-a-paradox-Well-screw-what-it-wanted NSFW MPREG SLASH

I'm not saying I shouldn't try it, but the malpropisms will trip me up.

The prompts aren't bad. Even optional, they are serving a good purpose.

As far as testing creativity... Perhaps.

I am assured that your agents are good, and should not give you enough trouble to prove a point. You can use Mattman's choices because I do like to see how others approach the prompts.

Dfyddd and Constance argue over who gets to do the Duty, and Agent!hS and Kaitlyn bargain for goods at the General Store.

I have my second-generation Nosgothan vampire use dermal Suebeprophen patches. She admits that she doesn't know if she's allergic to Bleeperin.

There was a problem with the team, and I should have been allowed to shelve them until I figured out what the problem was.

I'm not seeing vague and broad when I look at some of the prompts. I did have success with inserting the word "not" into a lot of them.

Here's a point of interest.

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Ehm... your plot is good, though your answer to the question 'why does the vampire want coffee?' is 'he doesn't'. A partner is always a good way to force someone to do something; in the event that you can't do that, either (maybe his partner is a Dalek?), you'd need to work in another character who they both have reason (social or employment-based) to try and help. Arrogantly. Anyway, I think the plot as it stands works well - Shimon's initial resistance, his reason for acquiescing, and his 'victory' at the end (which makes me grin).

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There might still be a problem with Samantha, though she seems to be working okay.

Quite literally, she needs nor wants anything but blood. Well, she does have a fear of dying in Nosgoth, which translates into wanting to please the Flowers and keep her job.

Samantha is the dominant partner, and is so uncaring for what Liz wants that she doesn't get dragged anywhere. They also rarely go to the same locations of Headquarters. (Samantha goes to the Watering Hole for blood and avoids the Cafeteria.)

I can mess with having the Foxglove Official ordering my agents to do the prompts. I'll skip the one where they visit the Nursery because it won't be funny.

The problem with that is that the prompts were rather vague and broad. Most of them were situations where any team could be slotted in and have something happen. If an agent team isn't able to do anything with the prompts without being ooc, then there is probably something wrong with the team as PPC characters.

The Permission Prompts were introduced for two reasons:

1/ To stop people from posting unsuitable stories and being denied Permission because they couldn't read our minds.

2/ To test your creativity.

A PPC mission will throw very strange things in front of your agents, and of you, the writer. See this mission as an example. If your response to anything in the least bit unexpected coming up is to throw up your hands and say "I can't write this!", you will not be able to write PPC missions. That's just a fact.

The Permission Prompts are quirky. They're unusual. But they're in no way impossible. For sure, there are a couple which impart emotions on your characters - but that's why they come in pairs, so you can skip those ones if you really want.

Still don't believe me? I'll prove it to you. Pick any one of my PPC agents - anyone on that list with a department abbreviation or 'Retired' next to their name (the others are non-agents). Pick any TWO prompts from the list. I guarantee you that I can write a short story using both of those prompts and that agent, whatever you pick. Because that's what being creative is all about.

hS

I wanted to be sure I wasn't just reading in the implication.

~Zing

This is why the prompts were unfair. This is why asking me to use a team not of my choosing was unfair.

I pointed out that all of the prompts were out-of-character for my agents. (S&L) They were also a team that didn't really interact outside of missions. (S&L) They turned out to be ill-conceived. (S&L) I didn't find the problem until writing an interlude.

I wanted to start with Kim and Hue. They are a simple team that fits the PPC expectations pretty well. They still don't interact much outside of the missions, but I was able to find a prompt for them.

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They were hoops, with the extra restrictions. Prove that you can write well with very strict limits on what you are writing.

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There needs to be an expansion of what can and can't be done without permission. Just the prompts is too narrow. Points 1 and 2 are very good, and should be added to the permission page.

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I think that it is good that the prompts are optional. Maybe have an expectation that everything written before permission will be re-written before publication.

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I wish that I had thought to ask for a co-write. That would have helped.

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Out of interest, this file is from the first week in January of 2015. https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KAEkhoe6ykKuFk8WjoUiUCALDU4DjGiQbqsU0LlGEE/edit?usp=sharing It shows some of the problems I was having.

It may be considered helpful to have the links to Bramandin's Permission requests, since she specifically discusses them in Neshomeh's email chain as an example of how 'Bramandin' was treated differently to 'zdimensia'.

Request 1 (Feb '16, denied by JulyFlame)

Request 2 (April '16, denied by Neshomeh)

Request 3 (May '16, denied by Desdendelle)

Request 4 (June '16, granted by JulyFlame)

And, for comparison's sake, zdimensia's Permission Requests:

Request 1 (June '14, denied by Neshomeh)

Request 2 (July '14, denied by Delta Juliette-by-any-other-name)

Request 3 (August '14, denied by... banning, basically)

hS

Are you referring to the past year,

or years ago and this thread?

I'm getting a lot of it is your fault that you are angry at us, and it's your fault that we are angry at you.

Bramandin from the last year wasn't a facade. That's me when I'm somewhat calm.

zdimensia is partly myth because you wouldn't understand her motivations, which were never malicious.

Wait until the dust settles and see how the future goes.

It's been said that I forced you to ban me. Perhaps it is my fault for not seeing other recourses.

Yes, that is satisfactory, and it helps.

I'll be the first to say that no one wants you to kill yourself. We would be very upset if you did that.

I'm glad you're prepared to get help if you need it.

~Neshomeh

I actually do want to speak less.

There is a lot of anger right now. Wait for the dust to settle.

Are you referring to zdimensia, or Bramandin?

Neshome didn't do wrong. I think that hospital staff will also ask it that bluntly.

She did write FicPsych. Maybe she's done a lot of research?

She also has some insight on how I don't do subtle well.

Think of Drax (red tattoos) from Guardians of the Galaxy.

I still feel like every person here would live happily ever after if I killed myself.

I'm not actively feeling suicidal at the moment.

I am prepared to go to the hospital, but I don't want to.

Is that a satisfactory answer?

I understand what you're asking, and why. But... this doesn't feel like the sort of question you'd ask someone you thought might actually be contemplating suicide, because of how badly someone in that state might take it.

Or something like that.

hS

zdimensia was banned. She broke the ban and, thus, should be permabanned (I understand now that we should have been explicit on that point when the IP ban was put in place). Bramandin is zdimensia (who came back under false pretenses to avoid being banned) and, thus, should be permabanned.

Also, I see a lot of people saying "but Bramandin is trying". I do not see anything of the sort. I see the same behavior that we have always seen. The "trying" was a facade that fell away when they posted this thread. This is how she really feels. She was upset because, in her mind, we were silencing her from saying how terrible we all are so we could repent. She still takes no responsibility for their bad behavior, and instead are waiting for the PPC community to apologize for intentionally inciting her to behave poorly.

But the community did not force zdimensia to break her ban. We didn't force her to create a sock puppet to get around the ban. We didn't force her to, by her own account, attempt to manipulate the permission process. We did not force her to lie repeatedly to the community. She chose to do all of that.

I'm personally done with this, and vote for an explicit permanent ban.

-Phobos

Are you, or are you not, feeling suicidal at this time?

You started off this thread by telling us you were feeling suicidal, but here you say you're feeling better than you have in a long time. Which is it? Or, if you were feeling suicidal when you first posted, but your situation has changed since then, please tell us that.

~Neshomeh