From my own studying of PPC writing and my own experience with treating badfics in general, I'd call the style of humor expressed in PPC stories boke-tsukkomi comedy (or roughly "wise guy-straight man"), a type of comedy that centers around a duo with one half who says/does stupid things (the boke) and the other half who humorously reacts by snarking, loudly correcting, or straight-up delivering slapstick (the tsukkomi). PPC stories are full of boke-tsukkomi interactions – whether it's the badfics' and/or Sues' being told off by agents, agents' telling off one another, or even the third-person narrator's telling off everything in the story – and this kind of dynamic provides characterization contrast, which is clearly common in PPC stories, so I try to write my agents and stories to reflect that (one with less controlled behavior and speech, and snark in the narration).
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Okay, proper reply to the question this time by
on 2021-02-09 13:48:23 UTC
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Sorry, Kyayuygya. :( (nm) by
on 2021-02-09 13:25:15 UTC
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Quick reply first; I'm kinda running short on time right now by
on 2021-02-09 12:59:02 UTC
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Thanks for the feedback, but you misspelled Kaguya's name in the latter half though 😚
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Requesting second opinion. by
on 2021-02-09 10:53:33 UTC
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But only one one thing! By and large this looks pretty good. Let me go through it; the request/question is at the end.
You: you've been here, you've been active, you've not made too many missteps, all good.
The characters: Nothing wrong here; 'the snarky one and the bubbly one' is a classic PPC archetype. You can just write their names surname-first all the time; you don't need to reverse the order solely for their bios. Question: the bio implies that Chizuru was created by Kaguya (hence why she's stuck with wings), but the fic indicates that she was summoned from her reading, and she makes no comments about being randomly stuck with wings. How does that work? And if she already existed, why does Kaguya get to name her?
Also also: I know you've designated them both as coming from World One, but that's generally taken to be 'our' world without supernatural elements. Probably the simplest fix would be to list Chizuru's home as "World One folklore"; it keeps the link without implying that it's actually possible to summon half-bird women with half an hour's googling. (I think we'd have noticed that one by now!)
The badfic: Looks bad. :)
Control prompt: Looks... generally fine. I have a few comments, and I'd like to use your first paragraph as an example.
Your paragraphs are getting out of control. Please break them up a bit more! A paragraph should focus on a single idea or viewpoint. Your second paragraph has two different people speaking in it, which is right out.
Similarly, your sentences have gotten over-long, and jump around a bit in theme.
In places, your word order and -use is technically correct but somewhat unusual. That's probably something to ask a beta to keep an eye on.
He did not know what to make of the lifeform that materialized on the sheet of
drawnpaper spread out on the floor before him[:] {he had never even taken into consideration the possibility that summoning might work}. Such was the silly whim of one Hazama Kaguya: for reasons unknown, instead of spending the Sunday morning crafting poetry in the most flowing calligraphy he could manage, folding paper, or mulling over whatever piece of classic literature he could get his hands on, he {decided} to try onmyōdō[.][It was only] the most rudimentary form of {the art, which} he picked up from the Internet in lieu of proper education of the art. He was already
inwardlysneering {inwardly} at himself [-] a "grown man playing Kokkuri-san by his lonesome" [-] {while} he drew the drawings and chanted the spells.ButThe sight of the half-human half-bird that {appeared} on the floor before him {froze him} in true panic."Where am I[?]
andHow did I end up here?"groggilyasked the young woman {groggily}[.] [She had] short fluffy white hair, large wings for arms [-] and a truly ugly T-shirt, which did not help matters in the slightest bit.That's a lot of markup, but not actually many changes, and a few of them ('tempted') could stay if you really wanted. This is the sort of conversation you'd have with a beta; I usually use Google Docs comments, so I can back-and-forth on points that need discussion. (I also do this with cowriters!)
Plot-wise, the control prompt is fine, other than something I'll mention in:
Creative prompt: O-kay. In broad strokes, this is fine: you convey the idea of what drove Kayuga nuts pretty well, you use his already-highlighted beauty to emphasise his breakdown, and Chizuru's 'threatening your stuff didn't work, I'll use your hated nickname' approach is pretty apt. But this prompt highlights two questions - one for you, and one for another Permission Giver:
1/ Ki no Shirayuki - you've kept the humour fairly minimal in both these prompts. It's mostly limited to wry comments at your agents' expense ("Such was the silly whim", "Among many blessings she received from him"), or Chizuru's way of speaking. How well do you think this will fit in with the PPC's general style of humour - and while you're here, what would you say that style is? (Not a trick question, and there isn't a single 'right answer' I'm after.)
2/ Permission Giver - you know me, I'm old-fashioned, and the PPC has changed a lot. Two things stand out to me in these prompts:
Kayuga's graphic rant (the 'skewer her full of holes' one). I'm not sure why, but this feels different to J&A-style 'can we kill her?' banter. Am I just being weird? And is it even worth asking, given that the scene is explicitly OOC for him?
The relationship between the two agents. The paragraph where Kayuga pins Chizuru to the floor and yells at her about the Suvian brought this into focus, but woven through the entire doc is an undercurrent which looks like Kayuga is abusive towards Chizuru (mostly non-physically, but there is the floor-pinning) , who gets turned on by it. I... have... no idea whether that's okay or not? Does it even qualify as abuse if she literally told him she wanted it within thirty seconds of meeting him?
(Ki no Shirayuki, feel free to comment too if I've misunderstood something!)
Other than those points, I'd be happy to grant Permission, with a note to ask your beta to keep an eye on paragraphing and word-use; but for now, hopefully someone can show up and offer some advice.
hS
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Latest on the list of ingredients to fry by
on 2021-02-09 01:16:44 UTC
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Mayonnaise. No, still doesn't make it an instrument.
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We have deep fried butter at my hometown's fall fair! by
on 2021-02-08 19:01:25 UTC
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Southern Indiana checking in here—I've had the chance to try deep-fried butter and I'd have to guess it's a combination of what goes into the breading, how salted and creamy the butter is, and what you choose to dip it in.
The stuff that I tried was very salty/savoury and I dipped it in salsa. It was delicious, but I could only manage a few thumb-sized pieces on my own.
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He did lurk outside the window when he was a stray :) by
on 2021-02-08 17:18:50 UTC
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And he follows me everywhere. Maybe he really is Sam reincarnated into a cat’s body XD.
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Thanks for this! by
on 2021-02-08 14:58:09 UTC
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I was wondering, but I didn't want to pry. {= ) I'm very happy for Samwise. It's a good name. May he bear it long and well.
~Neshomeh
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Behaviours to watch out for: by
on 2021-02-08 08:39:54 UTC
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Lurking outside your window (eaves optional).
Stealing your taters.
Excessive 'gardening'.
Refusing to be left behind.
Refusing to leave you behind.
Imitative behaviour (as my old Gaffer used to say).
That's a wonderful name. :)
hS
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Cat Update! by
on 2021-02-08 01:52:52 UTC
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Anchovy has been renamed Samwise (or Sam for short). He’s doing really well and actually is getting along with my other two cats.
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Not fond of sweets, to be honest. by
on 2021-02-08 01:43:20 UTC
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I prefer fruits and vegetables and tend to point that out to my teachers at any available moment.
"It's sort of like giving cookies and soda to kids."
"Or broccoli."
"But that's just excitement for you, not sugar."
Kittyauthor, who now wants broccoli.
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Aww, my mouth is watering by
on 2021-02-07 23:06:31 UTC
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The channel kinda reminds me of Townsends.
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Then I should try to read it again when my eyes aren’t dilated and form a different opinion XD (nm) by
on 2021-02-07 18:04:15 UTC
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Short answer: elbow grease. by
on 2021-02-07 17:50:55 UTC
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Speaking as someone who used to make cookies entirely by hand before I was lucky enough to be gifted a stand-mixer, you can pulverize, mash, churn, knead, beat, or whip any food you like without the aid of electronic gadgets... if you have the stamina for it. Or someone to take over when you get tired, at least. {= )
So, if the people in question had cream, they could probably make cream soup. You'd have to look into whether it was worth the time and energy in a person's social class to determine if they would.
For more inspiration and information, I quite like the YouTube channel Tasting History with Max Miller. He refers to real ancient recipes, discusses how they would have been made and by whom at the time they were written, and also how to prepare them with the tools and ingredients we have available now. Also, he's a charming guy, and it's fun to see which Pokémon plushie he puts in the background of each video. ^_^
~Neshomeh
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Oh, I never meant to say it's the worst. by
on 2021-02-07 16:26:38 UTC
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Just that it's one of the so-bad-it's-funny-est. For real, if none of the horrible malapropisms make you laugh, I have to question your sense of humor. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Not the worst I’ve read? by
on 2021-02-07 16:18:20 UTC
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I’ve stumbled on some bad, bad Harry Potter ones out there.
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On the topic of food, how did medieval people make cream soup? by
on 2021-02-07 00:47:37 UTC
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I was browsing this blog and watching this channel for recipes for medieval themed settings, and they all include cream soup recipes that call for the use of blenders. The question is, did medieval people without access to blenders have cream soups, and if they did, how did they make them?
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I guess, if stuff like blood tasting "as refreshing as a lemonade Capri-sun" doesn't get you. by
on 2021-02-06 16:20:34 UTC
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How about "breasts delecately bouncing in the wind"? Blood "pouring into her mouth like a waterfall of gore and violence"? "Tears of pain and darkness rolled down her eyes"?
No?
You can always try reading the mission for a guided tour of the best lines and worst canon issues!~Neshomeh
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I decided to re-read Blood Raining Night by
on 2021-02-06 15:21:41 UTC
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I suppose it would have had more of an impact if I actually knew any of the continuums?
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More interesting fried food by
on 2021-02-06 00:49:05 UTC
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Shrimp tempura stir-fried with tea and tea leaves. The dish is more elegant than it sounds.
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Perfect. ^_^ Archived. by
on 2021-02-05 15:28:12 UTC
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In the Misssandman.com archive I have the PPC section fully backed up (all links either work or never worked). For OFUM I only have the main page and the fanart page, but the rest should all be on the Wayback Machine.
I still want to grab Suedom (since it's all broken and Waybacked nowadays); maybe I'll even recreate the Suedom website. And I'd like to grab some of Cam's fanfic too.
I also also need to go through and check the links... I know my Webplex and your Tripod archives are linked in various places. It'll all get done at some point...
hS
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Ah, the Monitor link was wrong! by
on 2021-02-05 14:57:55 UTC
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It should be: https://app.box.com/s/m66hndt6ev8ud8i6n98r
That works. I have now fixed it on the wiki page.
I only have a few misssandman-related files: "31 Ways to Kill a Mary Sue," "Ashes to Glory," the evil smiley pic, and the Miss Cam pic. The pics are in use on the OFUM and Miss Cam pages, respectively, but I'm happy to email them if needed, too.
~Neshomeh (who keeps forgetting that you can't use Markdown in subject lines)
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Status update. by
on 2021-02-05 14:53:19 UTC
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Crashing Down and all the Alternate PPC stuff is rehosted. I was amused to see that both Reorg and CD are > 60k words; they could be NaNos!
I've added the TOS prologue archive to the Monitor, because, fun! I've also updated the TOS Badfic Archive with authors from the chapter headings - including the fact that the author of 'Mithril' and 'Gwendolyn' totally died and was replaced by her cousin who writes just like her - and tweaked the TOS timeline slightly with a surviving review for 'All Souls Night'.
I've started transferring the FanficLand/World material to a stable format, but it's a long task, so don't expect that for a while. I'm kind of tempted to just upgrade the author pages and leave the stories as they were originally formatted, but there'd be a bunch of author names still needing updates... hrm.
I also stumbled across Architeuthis' FFn profile, which reveals that she was born in 1963! Did not expect that.
hS
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I don't have the Monitor saved, unfortunately . . . by
on 2021-02-05 12:57:49 UTC
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I do have seven Word docs-worth of Miss Cam stuff, though. (Labelled "OFUM 1," "OFUM 2," "OFUM site," "OFUM LJ," "World of Dreams site," "PPC agents," and "Mary Sue parodies.")
I don't remember what's in the World of Dreams that I decided to save, but everything else seems pretty self-explanatory. I can email you any/all of them if you want them?
—doctorlit
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Those are sold in my country too by
on 2021-02-05 05:07:36 UTC
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And I've eaten the variation with one half of the "corn dog" being cheese and the other half sausage. I still prefer full-on cheese sticks. I'm from Vietnam btw.
On the topic of strange fried food: breaded dragon's eye fruits stuffed with ground shrimp or meat, or as they call it, Dōngbì Dragon Jewels, a dish from Fujian, China. I don't know Chinese so I can't interpret what the article says. Here's a better photo.