That's not bad. I agree that the perspective in HQ probably does look like that.
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Re: My sad, pitiful attempt at art. by
on 2010-07-01 04:07:00 UTC
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Beta request/fic plug by
on 2010-07-01 03:58:00 UTC
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It's not actually PPC related, but this is the only place I know with a high concentration of literate LOTR fans.
I'm not really concerned with technical stuff and OOC-ness, since I have faith in my spelling and grammar abilities and the story doesn't actually contain any canons. Actually, it's only loosely connected to LOTR at all, but I can't really separate it enough to make it original (nor do I want to). I'm more worried about characterization (my main keeps turning into Legolas in my head, because he's my idea of Basic Tolkien Elf, and I really don't like that as the main isn't supposed to be Legolas) and style--I've been trying to imitate Tolkien's semi-formal style, but I may have taken it too far. (Don't worry, no fake Shakespearean.) Also, I don't want my main turning into a Stu, and I figure that a second (or third, or fourth, or...) opinion is the best way to keep that from happening. Also worried about Bad Science and general lameness of plot devices.
It's set in modern times, starts off in a deep forest, probably the Congo. Main character is an elf, who (for unknown reasons) has stuck around long after all the others left for Valinor. (See what I meant by lameness of plot devices? But then, I figured that since most of the Elves seemed to have no desire whatsoever to leave M-E before a certain time--sort of a psychological "lifespan," if you will--this one just never felt the urge.)
He doesn't have a name yet, pending me getting my lazy rear off the ground and actually doing some research on Sindarin. I'm just referring to him as "the Elf" for now.
Here's the Google Docs link, if you're interested: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWFNC2Jjdy-RZGQzOTVtcWdfMGNqM2N6eGNw&hl=en&authkey=CJOyu7IB
I'm not finished writing it, so I'll be adding on more as it gets written.
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Aw, thanks. ^^ (nm) by
on 2010-07-01 03:18:00 UTC
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So, fountain and ten thirtyish/eleven? (nm) by
on 2010-07-01 03:07:00 UTC
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I think could certainly use a clean-out. by
on 2010-07-01 03:00:00 UTC
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And I admit, I do wonder sometimes what the point is about having an unclaimed badfic page; aside from the real horrors, I don't think there's much point in listing unclaimed badfics. So I'm all for cleaning out the list.
As for Claimed Badfic... it should be a very temporary list, methinks. We can try to contact the people who have claimed things more than a year ago, but otherwise... I shrug. Go ahead - scrub, scrub.
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Huh, seasonal werewolves... by
on 2010-07-01 02:43:00 UTC
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They would have fur when it's cold, and lose it when it's hot. That's a very practical curse!
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Technically... by
on 2010-07-01 02:37:00 UTC
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in English it's called a "diaeresis", and like our Anonymous contributor has said, it's used to denote that two vowels are to be pronounced separately rather than combined into a diphthong: e.g. naïve, Noël instead of "nayve" "noewl".
In German, it's an "umlaut", and actually indicates a change in the vowel itself (basically adding an "e" - e.g. spätzle can also be transcribed as spaetzle if you're transcribing to something that doesn't support diacritical marks).
The circumflex ^ also appears in Adûnaic (kinda by definition!)
Elcalion, typography nerd
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Actually... by
on 2010-07-01 02:31:00 UTC
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Due to the fact HQ has never seemed to conform to standard rules of geometry, I find the perspective in the sketch perfectly acceptable! :D
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Thanks Elorie by
on 2010-07-01 02:08:00 UTC
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I was rather doubtful as to whether any of it actually had any relations to Evlish, considering the canon rape that goes on on those sites--some of it is quite traumatizing, just by reading the descriptions (and they condone real-person fics!! AHHHHHH!*faints*) Anyways, I was worried for a few there. At least it's proper words, if not proper grammar.
Thanks anyways. The first two were...fairly useful, I guess. I'm still gonna lambast those...travesties, first opportunity I get (goddamn summer homework...).
-Honu_Wahine
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Quite funny by
on 2010-07-01 01:45:00 UTC
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Loved the Snow Miser reference.
Also, Broom/Bella. New pairing. :D
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Agreed. by
on 2010-07-01 00:34:00 UTC
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An easy way to do that without injecting superfluous content into the pages would be to use hide-me tags. If you've edited the main page, you've seen these. They look like this:
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Anything within the tags won't be rendered, so if you leave a note like that at the top of your pages, potential editors will see them, but they won't clutter your pages.
I will note that exceptions to don't-edit-my-page requests may nonetheless be made when it comes to fixing typos, broken links, shoddy Wikia markup, and other things that harm the Wiki's function and/or appearance. The Wiki IS a group project, after all, and those things reflect on all of us.
~Neshomeh
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The changes are there. by
on 2010-07-01 00:26:00 UTC
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Sorry they took so long. Will you add the pictures to the wiki? I am not quite sure how that is done.
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My sad, pitiful attempt at art. by
on 2010-06-30 23:52:00 UTC
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I'm not an artist. That needs to be said first and foremost. However, I do occasionally dabble in sketching, and felt like doing one of Lee wandering around HQ. She's in her anthro cougar form, so don't be too off-put that it's not human (I can't do humans very well, anyways). My apologies beforehand for those of you who can actually draw well and can do perspective correctly.
Pic here
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Editing agent pages by
on 2010-06-30 23:39:00 UTC
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I have so far had two people tell me that they did not want me to add mission links to their agents' pages. I have made note of their names and will not do so.
One thing, though: I had no way of knowing which people they were, in advance.
Obviously, user pages should only be edited by the actual users; but agents are different, since their missions are part of the PPC canon and should be preserved. Many agents whose missions I posted were the creation of Boarders who hadn't been around in a long while, and others belong to people who don't use wikis much. The vast majority of agents can be tagged "Inactive"; and if we don't want their missions lost to the mists of time, they have to be listed. The pre-Wiki ones even had to have pages created for them, usually very simple ones just listing their partner, department, author, and home page, or else a copy-and-paste of the profile they had on their web sites.
For an active agent with an up-to-date page, the only editing that ever needs to be done by anyone other than the agent's author is adding mission links. But, as I said, I couldn't tell who objected to my adding them, nor for that matter who was still around, or around often enough, to edit the page themselves.
My suggestion is that anyone who does not want others adding missions to their agents' pages should put a small note on those pages, stating their preference.
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Someone dealt with it! by
on 2010-06-30 23:23:00 UTC
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Yay! And applause to your agents to endure this monstrosity of badfic! Poor Holmes, what happened to your integrity, moral values, character... *weeps*
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The mind boggles. by
on 2010-06-30 23:20:00 UTC
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Ah Huckleberry Finn and Lord of the Rings crossover? People come up with stuff, unbelievable...
I mean, where are any connections? And from what I have read, it's not that properly done... A case for Improbable Crossovers?
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The horror knows no bounds in this one... by
on 2010-06-30 23:11:00 UTC
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...Same as a certain someone understanding no "no".
This is another brilliant example of why rape (or non-con) is not a good plot device. Especially trivializing it!
AARGH!
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Sorry. I needed that. Anyway, does anyone happen to have some Bleeprin? Or failing that, a saw to open my skull? I need to scrub my brain... *whimpers*
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Lesse... by
on 2010-06-30 23:05:00 UTC
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...what I can make of this. I'm not really fluent, either, but a hardcore Tolkien fanatic, and I hate the butchering of Elven languages. Now this is what I came up with:
"pen velui": "pen" is a pronoun, meaning simply "one/someone". "velui" is put together from "mel" (lenition makes it "vel" after some nouns and pronouns - debatable in this case), which means "to love" or and the suffix "-ui" which may be added to a word to create an adjective denoting attribute or ability. So basically: "Someone loved/loveable"
"roch neth/roch-neth": "roch" is "horse". A hyphen is not supposed to be there, for as far as I remember, Tolkien never used hyphens in any of the Elvish languages. Should I be wrong, please correct me. "neth" means "young/girl/sister". So it could be translated as "young horse".
"Ihaes": No idea. Found nothing in either Quenya or Sindarin dictionaries.
"Gûren": There is "gûr" in Sindarin, meaning "death" and "heart", though the latter in the moral sense. The "-en" suffix roughly translates as "my". Altought the accent above the u would vanish is the composition of "guren": "my heart/death".
"Maer fuin": "Maer" is an adjective to mean "useful, good", and "fuin" translates as "night, gloom, darkness". So: "Useful gloom"?
"Erfier": The prefix "er-" means "alone, one", and "fier" is made up. It should be "fíreb" meaning "mortal", or "fair" meaning "mortal man".
I may not be right on eerything here, and I welcome any and all corrections. For translation purposes I used the Hiswelóke Dictionary. Anyway, I hope this helps, Honu_Wahine!
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I think so too. by
on 2010-06-30 22:32:00 UTC
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Although really, that's the absolute least of the problems. The sheer disregard for the characters bothers me the most.
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The use of umlauts by
on 2010-06-30 21:54:00 UTC
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Actually, umlauts can appear in other places as well, most notably in diphtongs. Where the English would pronounce it as one sound, Tolkien has used umlauts to clarify pronounciation, such as with Eärendil or Fëanor.