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Yeah, I'm quite comfortable disregarding everything except TOS. Makes-Things lives in my world.

Now this makes me glad I haven't gone and tried to write my own missions. Otherwise, Glod knows I would have been flamed to hell and back at some point. I'm sure that with my utter lack of writing experience, I would have ended up making some of the biggest Agent!Sues in PPC history. This is precisely the reason why I decided to never attempt PPCings before first gaining the ability to write good characters and stories. If I do end up trying, however, I'll try to keep this in mind and avoid that sort of thing.

*cheers* I've been waiting for one of these. Excellent work; Monty Python doesn't deserve to have badfic like this.

... *hangs head*
*ponders killing off Sith Agents and leaving*

There is a lot of rage around here.

I don't mind when people decide to add some extra things. The routine stuff gets kind of repetitive.

Having said that? Yeah. I get the feeling my characters are included in this volley. Given that I've got a pair of fragging Force-users, the PPC might be better served by my killing them off and just walking away.
But you know what? I like my characters, including their abilities, which are part of who they are. I like using them for this. I don't believe they're Sue/Stu. But what I believe probably doesn't matter terribly much. My characters have full personalities, and the few missions they have done were fairly according to the Duty.

But... I just don't know. If others feel the PPC has no place for them or for me... okay. I could just let things go back to normal for others.

I... really don't feel good now. Can't help but wonder how many people might actually loathe what I've been doing.

Stumbled across that a while back and loved every second of it. Good stuff.

So, now that I've emerged from the black bottomless pit that is school...what have I missed and sorry I've been gone so long? :)

I have odd reservations about giving concrit to fellow PPC writers. Well, I find it odd. I think it mostly has to do with the fact that I consider the permission to write missions also as some sort of diploma for knowing how to write stories. So, I feel awkward telling people with this "story writing diploma" that their story writing isn't up to scratch. I don't want to appear condensending or have this whole 'I know better than you' air. Even if I do think the story could be better or an easier read with some modifications.

What doesn't help, is that these stories are beta read by other PPC writers. More people who, I think, should know how to write a story. Why didn't the beta reader point out to certain author that their story reads more like a story outline than a story? Why didn't the beta of other author tell them to not use the gerund so much, and mix some shorter sentences in among only semi-paragraph long ones?

I feel outnumbered on those occasions.

I'm more comfortable giving concrit to new PPC writers (those with no more than a few missions under their belt. It's like driving: you don't really learn how to drive until after you've got your license and drive a lot). Those, I thought, would be more open to concrit. Until I got such a reply from one of them for pointing out a continuity error that I decided that for reviewing PPC missions goes the same as for reviewing stories on the Pit: no feedback for anyone under the age of 16, preferably 18.

It feels wrong to have this rule of thumb, but I can really do without the annoyance of being told I'm wrong (even if only in the tone used in the response) for pointing out an error.

The Game of the Gods by Limyaael
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1518794/1/TheGameoftheGods
COMPLETE Morgoth and Varda are playing a little game. Morgoth's weapon: Mary Sues. Varda's weapon: Reality. Rated for violence and Vala OOCness.

Excellent fic. I highly recommend it.

~Zoe~

*threw in the last tense for fun*

I'll also plug her PPC stuff. 'Cause it's good.

http://www.geocities.com/gundamkiwi/PPC/missionlogs.html

~Neshomeh

I know two of those authors. Tungsten Monk is a former PPCer, which you may know, but Jess Pallas hung out on the same Farscape message board I used to. I second those recommendations!

~Neshomeh

Apple and Kiwi. Some of the best stuff I've ever read. Here's a link to their bio page: http://www.fanfiction.net/u/789781/

Not sure if this classifies as fanfic but it is good. Hstaphath's Monty Python and the Lord of the Rings and Monty Python and the Hobbit. XenoCorp's websit is here: http://www.xenocorp.net/H_bardCorner/xcbard.htm

~Zoe~

Is Anne McCaffrey. It's hard to explain, because I'm a big Pern fan, but there are things about her writing that really bug me, especially her more recent work (and don't even get me started on her son). Her Acorna series especially turned into one big Suefest, and I couldn't keep reading the books. I partly blame her change of co-authors for that, but still. I liked "The Rowan" and I've read all the books in the Talent/Tower and Hive series, but the more I think about it, the more a lot of the main characters look like Sues and Stus to me. I never liked the Crystal Singer books because they were all about how special the main character was.

I can't think of any other specific authors that I loved as a child, but Diane Duane and Brian Jacques also come to mind. With Duane, it's the same sort of thing as McCaffrey: her ideas are fantastic, but her execution could be improved. As for Jacques, he created a great world, but by the time I started reading his books (middle school), I was old enough to notice pretty quickly that he recycled the same plot in almost every book, and I lost interest.

I don't fault CS Lewis. His writing, at least in the Narnia books, is the result of the time he lived in and the fact that they were meant for young children, not that he didn't know what he was doing. He certainly did. I just happen to like his contemporary, Tolkien, better. {= )

~Neshomeh, who doesn't remember reading Beverly Cleary or AA Milne.

Before I begin, I would like to warn anyone who plans on reading this that I'm not very experienced with the PPC, since I've only been here for about two months. I also tend to ramble.
I haven't written any missions, but I really hope I can keep these things in mind for them. I'm not planning on writing any emergencies. Sheesh. I thought the point was to kill the Sues and point out the flaws of the badfics. In fact, after I read TOS, I was dismayed to find out that Makes-Things had been killed nearly a year earlier from when I found the PPC. I guess it's stuck that way now, at least for me.
Personally, I like the way TOS was set up: fairly standard with extra humor and twists added in. There was that blue unicorn deal with Lux, a vacation at the OFUM, the barbeque, a few agent changes, and a department change, among other things. Both agents had their blatant flaws and good attributes.
Hopefully, since this came up before I began any missions, I can write out the mental storyline better. I don't want my characters to become total Sues. I shudder to think of what would happen then.
Anyway, I agree on most of these views and I really hope I don't end up tripping up on one of them. I just want to write and take a whack at the badfic I loathe. Good luck to all other newbies who plan to write missions!

I mean--er--gosh, really? I certainly didn't intend for anything of the sort, especially in light of hS's plug on this thread. >.>

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>.>

*gives Trojie a shrubbery and walks away*

~Neshomeh

...a daring and heroic rescue in my own particular... "

"Idiom?"

"Idiom!"

"No, I feel fine, actually sir ..."

"Farewell, sweet Concord!"

...oops. I got a bit carried away there ...

then the question becomes a subjective one of, "where is the line drawn?" And personally, even my fanfics are written, at the end of the day, for myself, and I don't mind if no one but me or other PPCers read my missions - don't I have that right? No one ever said all writing must be community property.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just not entirely agreeing, either.

I'm not an avid fan, but I am a minor fan of the series. I just don't have the means of watching the series often. That fic was truly horrible, though. They should never mess with canon like that. Never.

Here's a nice shield from the Raven Armory. (Sorry about the belated welcome.)

But will only post my favorites.

Doctor Who
Belonging: http://never-more-fics.livejournal.com/2428.html
One of my favorites, great plot, great sex, great drama, great...everything.
Rude & Ginger: The Movie, by nostalgia
http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=29677
"Donna meets the wrong Doctor. Or is it the *right* Doctor, boom-chikka?"
Fantastic Four, by Tungsten Monk
http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=11289
"Rose has met her universe's Doctor, and she loves his scarf. His wife's not bad either. Together on the edge of space (once every Friday, anyway) they've formed their own little cozy brand of domestic. But when her Doctor comes looking for her, the one she knows now has got a few things to say to him."
Harry Potter
A Little More Time, By Jess Pallas
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3688609/1/ALittleMoreTime
"DH Spoilers Was it possible to save two lives without altering history? Was it possible to given them a future twenty years after they had supposedly died? Teddy Lupin thought so..."
LOVE-a DH AU done right.
When Are We?, by Ramzes
<a href="http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4071526/1/WhenAreWe">http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4071526/1/WhenAreWe
"Don't touch it!" Teddy shouted, but since when had James started obeying commands? He turned the hourglass and the world around them started spinning... and spinning... and spinning."
Teddy Lupin and The Untouchables, by Wildfungusgrows
<a href="http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3716810/1/TeddyLupinandTheUntouchables">http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3716810/1/TeddyLupinandThe_Untouchables
"Teddy Lupin is one of three famous orphans to have graced the halls of Hogwarts. He thinks he knows what he wants in life. But will he go the way of Tom Riddle or Harry Potter? Post DH, TL & VW, first ever fanfic! please read"
It really is better then it looks- a different take on Teddy then most fanfics.