It was a good thought -- besides, how's she going to learn if someone does it all for her? I never learned things that way. : |
Anyway, IMO, it would be at least somewhat petty to PPC any of her 'fics. You've a good rule of thumb there, methinks. PPCing something of hers seems to me almost like giving up on her ability to improve and change, and if we all did that, well, no one would get anywhere. >.>
Well, that's just my take on it. ^^;
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I guess so... by
on 2009-01-22 09:25:00 UTC
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I guess it's a question of morals by
on 2009-01-22 08:58:00 UTC
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I left a review for a story on my forum and then the author came along and asked if I wanted to beta read her story. I was "yay, this person appreciates tough love". I accepted her request, but did tell her I did not like to beta for grammar and punctuation.
It turned out she was pretty bad at punctuating dialogue. Rather than correcting all the errors, I thought I would explain her about the rules and let her fix the errors herself (and send the fic back to me for checking over any missed punctuation). The idea was that she would learn how to punctuate so that future chapters would have less errors in them.
This person turned out to be a bit of an idiot. That she didn't apply the rules is her choice, but she also did not remove my comments from the document. She uploaded a chapter that opens with my suggestions on how to improve her punctuation as a sort of author's note.
we've recently fallen out over a little addition I had made to my original review.
Now, would it be very petty of me to PPC one of her other fics?
Or should I just follow that rule of thumb I've followed so far: if I've beta read them (or they've shown in another way they are willing to consider advice someone has given them) I should not PPC them?
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Awesome~! by
on 2009-01-22 01:50:00 UTC
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Finally, someone else!
Mini-ligers. Excellent. *grin* Wanna beta for me? My usual beta's a bit swamped by school. ^^;
Tiny Dists would be hilariously awesome, but... um. How shall I put this. They would drive people absolutely crazy. Or me, at least. :P
Want one of the minis?
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HAppy birthday by
on 2009-01-21 21:04:00 UTC
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Happy birthday.
have a guide book on combat sporks, and a list of ways to kill sues.
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Ah, but who is to say it wasn't already carrot cake? by
on 2009-01-21 16:24:00 UTC
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The ways of cake are strange.
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Mana, of course. Sorry for being late! (nm) by
on 2009-01-21 10:25:00 UTC
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Thank you! by
on 2009-01-21 03:23:00 UTC
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*somehow or other, the piece turns into carrot cake*
*Noms*
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My $0.02 by
on 2009-01-21 00:28:00 UTC
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The PPC's tools are really the only reason the majority of agents are able to accomplish their task at all, given that they tend to be fairly average human teenagers. As Protectors of the Plot Continuum, it is their responsibility to see that they don't abuse such powerful tools as the disguise generator even as they take advantage of them in order to remove the Sue. I think Legal is willing to overlook a few things as long as the Sue is duly stalked, captured, charged, etc., but if you're going to eat a Sue, be sure that there will be side effects once you've reverted back to your normal form.
If it helps, I described the effect of the disguise generator as creating an overlapping morphic field around the agent. It doesn't exactly change your nature like shape-shifting or morphing does, but you do physically become the disguise for all intents and purposes.
~Neshomeh
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Have some cake. You know what's funny about that? by
on 2009-01-20 23:28:00 UTC
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Zotz got me the DnD Players' Handbook and a dice set for my birthday, so I am now officially geeky! Hurrah! *waves sporkstaff*
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Beg to differ. by
on 2009-01-20 23:20:00 UTC
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Once again on cue, Legolas turned up in a nearby tree. How he got there was left unsaid by the words.
"Frightening." Jay looked hopefully at Acacia. "Can I do the 'magical bubble that weapons bounce off of?' Please?"
"Sure," said Acacia in an "indulgent parent" tone.
"Legolas they are going to hurt me," Arond screamed.
He shot an arrow. It bounced.
"Hurrah," cried Jay, holding her staff aloft.
"Do you want Arond, or should I?" asked Acacia.
"I'm doing the bubble."
hS
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Plothole creation. by
on 2009-01-20 22:18:00 UTC
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In the end, it comes down to this question IC: do the Agents' actions create plotholes? If not, there's no reason for the Sues to mind. OOC, the question is whether that makes the Agents Suvian.
As for Jay, it was the Sue who raised the bubble. (I think.) As for the Ents, the bark that came with the disguise acted like armour, and the arrow was still there when she changed back...
The thing is, Gurlanins have two basic abilities: the ability to become invisible in the Force (at least to Padawans and Knights; I suspect not to God-mode Sues or Suvian Masters) and the ability to shape-shift. The former would be an inherent trait and would most likely work perfectly. The latter is the problem.
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In fact, they do. by
on 2009-01-20 22:08:00 UTC
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Jay gets to do the bubble which arrows bounce off, if I remember correctly. Plus they could fly as dragons, and were impervious to arrows as Ents...
hS
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You have a point... by
on 2009-01-20 21:57:00 UTC
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about the potential for abuse. However, in TOS (http://oddlots.digitalspace.net/PPC/PPC_TOS/sisterhood.html), Jay and Acacia incarnate as Maiar and choose their forms, meaning that shapeshifting diguises are possible (although they don't seem to get the powers of the Maiar, which supports your theory).
A limited shapeshifting ability is interesting...I suppose it could be that, as the canon Gurlanin are very powerful shapeshifters, disguised Agents would be capable of fairly small changes mass or shape wise (Gurlanin->hummanoid) but would simply revert to a black puddle form if they tried too many changes in a period of time or tried to change into something very small or very large. That gives me an interesting idea...
The Agent tries shifting to a rancor to eat the Sue. It fails spectacularly, and the Agent instead collapses into a puddle of black goo. Cue Suvian laughter and the Agent then suffocating her instead.
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Personally by
on 2009-01-20 21:39:00 UTC
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I think a disguise generator generates a disguise, i.e. just the physical appearance of the agent changes. The agents do not become the species that they look like (unless they already are that species). Actually, a female agent disguising as a male of the same species will still not be able to find out what the big deal is about peeing standing up.
I like that limitation of the device. If the device could give the agent any power they'd like from the fandom they were in, the device might better be renamed the Mary Sue generator. As that is what Sues do: they take on the powers of the fandom they like, and then some.
Which is not to say that agents have not taken over some of the minor powers of their species of disguise. I once disguised my agents as fairies from Torchwood, wings included, with which they managed to fly. That is if your definition of flying is falling down and occasionally missing the ground. (so they got the power, but couldn't control it. Ah, conflict)
Anyway, I guess if an agent disguised as a shapeshifter they'd probably be changing appearance throughout the story. And knowing how PPC equipment works, they'd be changing appearance at random, and quite often at inconvenient times.
Would that work for your story?
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Disguises-shapeshifters by
on 2009-01-20 18:05:00 UTC
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If a disguise is used, do the Agents take on all the physical characteristics and abilities of the forms? I know dragons seem to work, but what about a shapeshifting species such as the Gurlanin? I had a rather creative death in mind for a Sue that would take advantage of the species' natural form...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gurlanin
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Really quite late happy birthday. by
on 2009-01-20 17:05:00 UTC
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Sorry for the delay - I've been away from the Board recently. Have a blessed +7 rustproof sporkstaff and a blessed tome of finger of death. Oh, and a blessed scroll of genocide for good measure.
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That's heavy weaponry, isn't it? Mweeheehee. Have some cake! (nm by
on 2009-01-20 12:23:00 UTC
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OM NOM NOM! by
on 2009-01-20 11:11:00 UTC
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Thank you for the slice of cake. And yeah, I know, but it's the only Canon character left. I'm going to include her in the events of HBP a bit and make her slightly more sympathetic.
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Haha, one of my faves! by
on 2009-01-20 08:49:00 UTC
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Ligers sounds good, being as there aren't any really iconic animals, and ligers are big enough.
Although, tiny Dists would be adorable X3
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Have a Mark I K-9! (nm) by
on 2009-01-20 03:39:00 UTC
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*hands cake* (nm) by
on 2009-01-20 00:53:00 UTC
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*hands cake* Thanks! (nm) by
on 2009-01-20 00:52:00 UTC
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*hands cake* What sort? (nm) by
on 2009-01-20 00:52:00 UTC
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I exchanges your cake for my cake, and both are nummy. (nm) by
on 2009-01-20 00:51:00 UTC
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