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I've always thought it was rather more complete by
on 2009-01-23 07:35:00 UTC
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than some here seem to think. I refer you to the PPC Agents who had to permanently change into Elves, because a time distortion meant humans would have instantly died of old age.
I think the change is pretty complete.
One of my future plans kind of depends very, very much on this, so the fact that hS has already given the Jay and Acacia example helps a great deal.
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Eh. by
on 2009-01-23 01:25:00 UTC
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I'm not personally a big fan of that trick, to be honest. However, I think it's possible to make an argument for how it could work. One possibility is that a disguise generator hooked up to a TARDIS has enough oomph to enact a permanent change on the subject's own morphic field. Another is that a Time Lord's regeneration is powerful enough in itself that it can extend beyond the morphic field of the disguise to include that of the subject. Someone could probably come up with more possibilities.
Anyway, my explanation of disguises is just my explanation. It's not The Way Things Are unless everyone decides it it.
~Neshomeh
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...Nethackish? (nm) by
on 2009-01-23 00:37:00 UTC
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*hands you cake* I've been thinking about some of those. by
on 2009-01-23 00:33:00 UTC
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But I shall not tell you them, for people would steal!
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But wouldn't the turning into a Time Lord trick contradict by
on 2009-01-22 23:25:00 UTC
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that? After all, the regenerations would be considered "a change in nature"...
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II'd err on the side of caution... by
on 2009-01-22 21:18:00 UTC
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Which means not PPCing the work yourself. It's too easy for her to find it, and that'll just make things worse; the last thing you want is her throwing a fit at you personally.
I'd say toss it out for another PPCer to pick up and wash your hands of her work. It'll keep her from being wounded - perhaps far more deeply than if you were a random stranger - and preserve your reputation. Someone around here will deal with it. :)
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*head-desk* Silly me. by
on 2009-01-22 21:15:00 UTC
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Something can't be both "minor" and a general umbrella. But either/or...?
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Perhaps there should be a minor department for these cases? by
on 2009-01-22 21:14:00 UTC
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Something very general, perhaps to which everything else is sort of a sub-set?
Or floaters. Floaters tend to go by continuum rather than subject, so they're always an option.
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Collateral damage? by
on 2009-01-22 21:14:00 UTC
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Wouldn't it be restored when canon snaps back-canons are unable to die before their appointed time despite anything up to and beyond decapitation and boiling-? I ask because using an MDD device from the Enderverse might be interesting...
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Re: By cheating, of course. :P by
on 2009-01-22 21:08:00 UTC
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I suppose the original could be found and let the two of them duke it out, as the replacement, if we decide it is a replacement, has been stated to be theoretically able to die whereas the original is canonically immortal. That might involve unacceptable amounts of collateral though.
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By cheating, of course. :P by
on 2009-01-22 20:07:00 UTC
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And probably, if there isn't a method in-canon, by importing something useful from out of canon and throwing logic at it. For instance: imprison said replacement in a stasis field, which stops time from passing inside it. Throw into the nearest black hole. Return to HQ for cookies and whatever.
And that's just off the top of my head.
hS
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Give us the link to the story by
on 2009-01-22 19:41:00 UTC
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Show us the link and if the rest of the PPC Hive Mind agrees, someone will probably PPC it. Alternatively, one of us might try to take over your role in supervising her fics, seeing as how you two have fallen out. She has shown some willingness to revise her stories, which is more than most Suethors, so I'd go easy on her for a little while longer--see if we can't bring her back to the straight and narrow.
What's the fandom, by the way? If it's one of mine, I'd be willing to look her over.
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Re: That would be the OC by
on 2009-01-22 18:45:00 UTC
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I am aware. I'm asking that if Kyuubi was in fact replaced, how on earth would the Agents manage to take out the Sue replacement of a raw embodiment of chakra and malevolence?
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Your thoughts on the matter count as much... by
on 2009-01-22 17:04:00 UTC
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as the next boarder's.
Well, the fic genuinely needs dealing with. One of my first thoughts when she asked me to beta was "dang, now I can't PPC her stuff anymore". There's a Sue (and an imported friend), there's more people out of character than you can wave a stick at (because in this fandom they might shoot you if you do), there's historical inaccuracies and the plot has holes.
It's just, the author already thinks I'm out to get her, so this might gave me even more of a bad rep.
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That would be the OC by
on 2009-01-22 16:58:00 UTC
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OC stands for original character. If there's a Sue, there's an OC.
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Re: I guess you mean there are also no OCs. by
on 2009-01-22 16:56:00 UTC
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I suppose that's possible. I hope not, though - how on earth would you handle a Naruto-verse Kyuubi Sue?
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There's Bad Parody, too, if it's one of those. (nm) by
on 2009-01-22 14:18:00 UTC
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Re: I'm sure there's a department somewhere that can cover it. by
on 2009-01-22 13:49:00 UTC
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Isn't there a Department for Out Of Character Hobbits? Or something along those lines.
There's also Angst, if that's the direction that the OOCness is going in.
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I'm sure there's a department somewhere that can cover it. by
on 2009-01-22 13:36:00 UTC
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If there's any romance at all and it's not slash, it could still fall into the Department of Bad Het. Then there's the Department of Technical Errors if it's full of spelling mistakes. Do we have a Department of Characterisation, or something along those lines? When in doubt, call on the Floaters.
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Yup. by
on 2009-01-22 13:14:00 UTC
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I probably would. But I'm not a very nice person. XD
If you've tried to help her and she hasn't accepted that help, then that just makes her worse. At least some of the others might be doing it because they're ignorant. Unless you're wanting to PPC one of her fics simply because she annoyed you, rather than because it genuinely needs dealing with.
It depends on whether you can handle the follow through as well. If it's going to make you feel guilty then perhaps it's not worth it.
Just my $0.02. I'm obviously a newb who's opinion isn't that important, but I hope it's helpful. ;)
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I guess you mean there are also no OCs. by
on 2009-01-22 12:01:00 UTC
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I think it depends on your interpretation. If the characters are so OOC that they may have been replaced by other people, and these other people seem Mary Sues (or at least one of them), then the DMS could still handle it. It's a case of character replacement. Look for plotholes where the canons may be hiding and then charge and kill the Sues.
Oh, and floaters seem to handle pretty much anything.
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Departmental question by
on 2009-01-22 11:14:00 UTC
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Who deals with a fic where there are no non-bit part OCs, and it's not a crossover or bad slash, but all the canon characters are horrifically OOC?
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Now I wonder... by
on 2009-01-22 10:44:00 UTC
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What are you going to use those random Nethackish items for?