Amongst others, Huinesoron and Phobos had tried to work out something with her, and she refused every single offer for compromise. People had tried over and over to talk this through with her, but she refuses to even consider another perspective than hers.
And she has been heard, and argued with, and asked so many times to just let this matter rest, because her constant harassment was actually starting to take a toll on people. Do you think she's the only one in this whose feelings were hurt?
And "not racist by the standards of where she grew up" - excuse you, but that is a load of bull. I grew up in Eastern Europe, and if I started complaining about those damn Arab migrants overrunning Europe or calling Chinese people slant-eyes, it would not be a single bit unusual because the majority of people in my country and neighboring countries still think that way - hell, just recently I saw a stand-up routine on a very popular TV channel about how the comedian couldn't differentiate Chinese people from each other. By the standards of where I grew up, this isn't racist either. Does that mean it's acceptable for anyone who knows anything about racial relations? Hell, no.
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Yes, they have. by
on 2019-08-05 12:29:00 UTC
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Re: Have you also seen... by
on 2019-08-05 12:18:00 UTC
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I have seen more of you throwing back apologies, claiming the opposite of what she's saying, and just treating her like a villain. She wouldn't have socked if it wasn't the only way to even get a chance of being heard. She isn't even racist by the standards of where she grew up. Has anyone emailed her yet?
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I apologize if that was out of line... by
on 2019-08-05 12:10:00 UTC
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...not to Marion, but to the other Boarders. If the Nameless Admin deletes my reply, I'll understand. I'm afraid I haven't quite reached the point of being able to ignore this kind of twisting around of what actually happened over the years - it still makes me angry.
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Have you also seen... by
on 2019-08-05 12:06:00 UTC
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...how she's been harassing this community for years, repeatedly violating her ban and ignoring everyone's apologies and offers for a compromise, or how she's been trying to sic other people on us despite being told even by other communities to let this issue rest?
Has she also told you about that, or only about the narcissistic evil bullies harassing her poor defenseless person when she keeps coming back and violating the ban, Marion?
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How about email? by
on 2019-08-05 11:41:00 UTC
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I have read the wiki, with a link provided by her, and I see how you have bullied her.
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No apology necessary. by
on 2019-08-05 07:57:00 UTC
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I've called for bans impulsively before (no, I am not referring to Zdimensia here, despite what she thinks). It's fine. :)
hS
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You are entirely correct... by
on 2019-08-05 07:55:00 UTC
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... that enforcing the ban on Zdimensia and her meat-socks is entirely within the Nameless Admin's remit.
I personally have not seen sufficient evidence to class Marion as anything more than an advocate for Zdimensia, which is not the same thing. Previous advocates for listening to her and discussing with her include the likes of Huinesoron, Phobos, and Neshomeh.
Marion has demonstrated an interest in another topic, and has continued to discuss that topic while also discussing Zdimensia. That does not fall under the classic definition of meat-puppetry.
If they can be established as Zdimensia herself, that is of course a different matter; she is banned, and doesn't get to discuss anything. But again, I haven't seen sufficient evidence to be convinced of that, and I don't want to be accused of abuse of power. Someone else with Nameless Admin powers may feel different, and I'm not saying they can't act.
hS
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That was a nice little interlude by
on 2019-08-05 04:52:00 UTC
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I wonder if that girl in the red dress is going to show up again ... because that's some pretty hefty foreshadowing right there.
One typo: "It was an unspecified, but definitely long, time later" (that is, insert a comma)
- Tomash
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I'm glad you liked my agents by
on 2019-08-05 04:46:00 UTC
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That seems to be a trend among the people who've read this thing, and I hope to continue providing more of this isteresting dynamic , where it's coming from for both characters, and how it evolves over time in future work.
Thank you for catching more typos - there's always some that slip through, and they're tricky little things!
Good hunting! (on the scorpions)
- Tomash
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Re: mission by
on 2019-08-05 03:15:00 UTC
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Oh, you've made an interesting pair of agents here. I like the presentation of an Orc who isn't animalistic and violent, and in fact, likes reading and learning. Considering Tolkien himself was uncomfortable with the "always chaotic evil" presentation of them in his own writing, I think this is a nice way to give the species overall a bit of an update. I also like the dynamic between your agents, with Taq inherently looking for a "lord" of sorts to follow, and Peregrin very clearly doing everything in his power to treat Taq as an equal. It's a different agent interaction than we tend to see, and it makes for fun planning moments throughout the mission, with both agents bringing something to the table. A very unique pair to read about, indeed!
And now welcome to your Very First doctorlit-lists-your-typos moment! Enjoy!
"Peregrin added them his list."
" . . . to his list."
"This lead to Fawke’s human form being controlled by puppet strings held by the mini-Aragog."
Actually, I'm not sure this one's wrong. While reading, I interpreted the mini doing the puppetry to be the already mentioned Fawks, but maybe Fawke was a new mini here? If you did mean to use Fawkes's real name here, though, it would be "Fawkes's" since it needs both the "s" from the name and the one to show possession.
"When he’d finished announcing Hermoine’s real heritage and who Fawkes was, said phoenix flew in and then transformed back to human."
"Then Peregrin went over to the Sue and, magining to aim correctly this time, revived her."
"Peregrin, however, had quite forgotten what he had been doing what the console went off, and didn’t have any good ideas at the moment, so he reverted to his usual pastime—wandering the halls until something came up."
—doctorlit, off to collect scorpions now
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Re: Let's assume you're operating in good faith. by
on 2019-08-05 01:29:00 UTC
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Very well, but I do suggest taking things up with her via email.
As for your explanation, my only further argument is that it's difficult to separate authors from their characters, and I can only give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't intending to come off as attacking the author.
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Interesting post about the names in Lord of the Rings by
on 2019-08-05 00:43:00 UTC
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I figure hS probably knows all these things, but for a lot of other folks this Tumblr post about names in LoTR is pretty interesting.
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I disagree on one point. by
on 2019-08-05 00:31:00 UTC
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The Nameless Admin, or the community as a whole, has one more option. As voted on in this thread, a meat puppet for zdimensia (which Marion is, if not just a sock puppet or zdimensia herself under yet another assumed name), will be treated just like a sock puppet, which is to say we should question them about their identity because "Zdimensia has not, previously, shown much propensity for lying when directly asked". Of course, immediately following that pronouncement, zdimensia started lying about her identity when directly asked, so there's that.
-Phobos
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Let's assume you're operating in good faith. by
on 2019-08-05 00:31:00 UTC
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Thanks for clearing that up.
For the benefit of anyone following along, here's the passage with some relevant context included:"This is a problem," Nume said. "How do we kill a Sue that has no body?" He paced the hall, one hand at the back of his neck and the other on his hip, oblivious to the worried expression on his partner's face. "Unless it isn't a Sue." He stopped. "What if it's a Sue-wraith? She hasn't bothered creating a full-fledged body because she isn't interested in that kind of story. She's just a damn 'shipper." (WFWD)
You claim that this passage demonstrates that I took a pot-shot at an author because I don't like shipping.
Here is my rebuttal:
1. "She" in this passage refers to a Sue-wraith, not an author.
2. The opinion expressed belongs to Nume, a fictional character, not myself.
3. It is not clear what his opinion of shipping is. There are several valid readings of what his swearing means. Based on this passage alone, he may simply be frustrated because he had misunderstood the situation up until this point.
Now, there is a valid counterargument to be made on your side, but like I said, I'm not doing your work for you. If you want to debate me, please do me the courtesy of respecting my time and energy.
Also, I told you I'm not going to discuss zBram here. Nobody wants any further discussion of zBram here. Please respect our wishes and stop it, or go away.
~Neshomeh
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Ahhh. Important context! by
on 2019-08-05 00:00:00 UTC
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Not sure why Ronan's involved, though.
(Literal character replacement, maybe? I should hope that's Roshaun...)
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And also that the person's up to date on canon (nm) by
on 2019-08-04 23:59:00 UTC
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- And now, a fifth chapter. by on 2019-08-04 23:56:00 UTC Reply
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Hmmm... I do like! by
on 2019-08-04 23:55:00 UTC
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Something about Ruxanda saying 'ain't' amuses me - I could've sworn I saw a 'Ruxianda' in the text, but that may have just been me reading too fast.
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Good point. by
on 2019-08-04 23:37:00 UTC
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Didn't mean so much locking as doing the point-and-click deletion thing, but you're right. I didn't think about the ramifications of that, and I apologize.
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That's not something the NA can do. by
on 2019-08-04 23:34:00 UTC
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The NA can't lock a thread. All it can do is block Marion, and that power is only wielded to enforce a ban voted for by the Board. Anything else would be abusive, and I'm personally very tired of being accused of abuse of power.
There's more than a few people on the Board who've engaged in personal attacks at one time or another. At a minimum, I think Marion - as a new, though presumably (from their opinions) temporary poster - needs the usual chance to change + apologise (or however it's phrased now).
(This is based on what's on the Board; I am unaware of anything off it, so can't comment on such.)
hS
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Calling for the Nameless Admin to lock this thread. by
on 2019-08-04 23:11:00 UTC
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Marion has now demonstrated themselves to have allied with zdimensia and is making personal attacks on Neshomeh. We are no longer obligated to show them good faith.
I'll ask nobody else to respond to this thread further in the meantime.
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Re: Mmkay. by
on 2019-08-04 22:48:00 UTC
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"She hasn't bothered creating a full-fledged body because she isn't interested in that kind of story. She's just a damn 'shipper."
But I do apologize. I did not believe her when she said you don't take criticism well.
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Looking for a beta! by
on 2019-08-04 19:50:00 UTC
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There's another mission I have queued up, and I'd like someone to take a look at it. It's a Lord of the Rings fic, and not quite as bad as my previous finds, but be warned that it's a DAVD mission, so it does have unpleasant stuff - if anyone wants specific trigger warnings, I'll give them. Also, I've got some debutante characters (one of them, Ruxanda, you might have already met), and I'd like some feedback on their dynamic.
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CAHQ is happening! by
on 2019-08-04 19:17:00 UTC
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