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Ah, I wasn't aware that the "female betas okay" rule came with a chaperone- I simply thought that the rule had been overridden in this case, since I'm not on Discord- that's the implication I drew from his post here. That certainly helps clarify the situation.
I do appreciate the context leading up to the rule. The main thing is, it isn't the rule that bothers me at all, and I'd be perfectly happy to follow whatever sort of code Neo would prefer in these situations.
It really is the implication that bothers me. While it does seem likely that the "we all have desires" bit is an explanation for the rule and not necessarily a statement of personal belief, the way it was phrased made whether or not it was personal belief or part of the religious explanation somewhat ambiguous, and still somewhat hurtful to me personally.
Since the idea of "further apology" seems to be the problem, perhaps asking for clarification would be more suitable and less likely to cause harm?
I do like the idea of exploring the idea of this religious rule further, since it is an interesting idea, but doing it on this thread might be awkward- I worry it would come across as making assumptions about Neo personally, or talking past him.
And this does come across as an explanation/addition of context, in case you were worried.

I don't have time to explain very much, but here's a good Google search with lots of images from New Cal. Here's one focusing on traditional Kanak houses, likely seen more out on the farms but also note the modern cultural center inspired by them.

I also came across nice examples from other places, such as the French Quarter in Pondicherry, India and maybe Victoria, Seychelles, which is a bit too urbanized but that mountain backdrop tho.

I started looking for something to stand in for the Appetiser/clock tower, and I don't have anything for the building yet, but check out this really amazing clock face. It has a bit of a dark history, but it's cool, though, and it goes to 24!

In summary: bright pastel colors, pillared porches, nothing much over three stories, traditional houses farther out and other influences within, gorgeous setting, what's not to like?

~Neshomeh

... the sort of architecture you're talking about. I don't have a real feel for any of those styles, so a mix of them is beyond me until and unless you can conjure an image up.

That road shows up on the GPS marker paperwork, which explains how to walk to the various points. It's described (in French) as 'From R.T.1, 450m after the road to Népou, take a mining trail to the north that leads to the old Mines St. Louis. Continue by the track North to the foot of Pic Poya...' So it's the main route up from civilian New Cal to the city, insofar as one is ever used.

A delve into Google Earth reveals that the area of the city is mysteriously missing from the 2002 satellites. In 2004 your grid is already visible, and remains so through to 2018. I think it's probably old roads, or perhaps something to do with logging?

I ran into the Mapcarta link myself; it's decent (I used its locations for the mines), but has a tendency to miss out on precise coordinates. You can see the Mont Boulinda marker is tumbling down the slope, for instance. That's what sent me to whatever non-English Wiki I wound up on. :)

hS

...and Thoth, I'm glad you said something, because I didn't want it to feel like I was dogpiling in some way (and I still don't)...so hopefully this comes across first and foremost as an attempt to explain and add context. I don't want to be hurtful either--I just think this is worth the time it took to write out, and hopefully the time it takes to read as well.

Two things:

-he's said he could used a female beta so long as there's a second person there. The rule prohibits one-on-one contact, not any and all interaction with women; a chaperone of sorts makes it acceptable. (Neo, do feel free to correct me, but as far as I can tell from the information you've given--and extrapolating from the version of this that I've run into--this seems accurate.) He didn't let go of the rule so much as finding an acceptable compromise that already exists. He's still not saying he'll correspond with a female beta one-on-one.

--supporting side point: this is much like how he's been communicating here and in the Discord chats--to my knowledge this has never come up before, and that's presumably because both the Board and the Discord are public-ish mixed gender settings, so he's been able to participate without breaking the rule.

-This point extrapolates more from the version I've run into (see my earlier posts for context, but essentially I think I'm talking about a very similar rule from a different religion), so, once again, Neo should absolutely feel free to correct me, but: I don't think the "we all have desires" bit is necessarily a conclusion he arrived at on his own when thinking about why this rule exists. In the version I know, it's one of the reasons why the rule was codified...sometime early on in the past two thousand years. It has to do with the modesty of both men and women (yes, I'm aware there are other genders, but the original ruling wasn't written acknowledging that), and I think preserving reputations as well? And not to distract men from religious study? A lot of factors go into it in the version I know, is my point--and my other point is that because the rule came in so long ago, it's phrased as though everyone either is or has the potential to be a sexually interested cisgender man or woman, regardless of the reality. Rules were also often made based on the majority (or the visible majority), to a certain extent, which that particular category was implied to be considered (I say this primarily because there are comparatively few mentions of anyone who didn't match that description, and a ton of discussion treating the category as the norm).

--an extra point: in the religion I've been talking about, at least, rulings were frequently made taking appearances into account. Individual cases could be decided at the discretion of the local leader, but that was different: you'll often see something like "one shouldn't do this lest someone else see and believe that person is breaking a certain commandment." Thus, had someone come to them with the question of "can I spend time alone with this woman, given that we're both asexual and have absolutely no interest in each other past talking excitedly about baking," it's possible they would have responded with "no, because others may see and become convinced that that isn't the case and you're behaving immodestly behind closed doors." Like I mentioned earlier--rulings, especially religious ones, were often made with what was viewed to be the majority of the community in mind. (There were even cases where a majority tradition became codified because it was so popular--and a bunch more where traditions became cultural laws of sorts despite not being officially put in place, but that's a tangent.)

I do understand that (and why) that particular implication bothers you. However, I'd like to raise the idea that that's part of how the rule was explained to him, rather than something he came up with in a vacuum. I've never researched this particular area much, since I don't follow this type of rule myself (except to some extent around people who do)**, but I'm sure there are groups who have been thinking about how it could/should be adapted in this modern age. There certainly are for all sorts of other religious concepts, across many religions. The idea of a further apology doesn't sit completely well with me because, at least from my context, it feels like asking for an apology for following and citing a traditional religious rule that, while using what's now considered exclusionary language, wasn't intended to offend or degrade either on his part or, as far as has been passed down to is, on the part of the people who codified it. While I can think of other traditional rule situations where I would be strongly on the side of further apology, this case seems more like one where it might be nice if he said that he hadn't intended offense with that line, and maybe that he'd think about different phrasing to use in the future to avoid this happening again. But to have to apologize a second time for saying that at all, when it came up in the context of explaining what was going on and what the rule was trying to prevent, seems a bit much to me.

And that's my five cents. Hopefully that both helps in some way and is readable--I've tried to go over it, but I'm not at my best today. Still, as someone who's come into contact with this type of religious rule before, in both life and in courses, I thought I'd try to bring in another perspective and some context.

~Z


**I can elaborate on that if you want me to/are curious, but essentially it boils down to respecting people who do follow that set of rules wholly or partially by following suit while interacting with them; a more minimal version of that around people who I think might follow some of this ruleset; and occasionally running into people who think *I* might follow it and not seeing an easy way to correct them or even feeling it's necessary, whether because I probably won't see them again or because I don't mind not shaking hands with them in that moment and probably won't see them again. That's as far as I go, though, generally--I just wasn't raised that way, and have never really felt strongly that I should take it on.

Again, I can elaborate--probably should, since I'm mostly talking about a different rule in the set now, and this kind of discussion (as well as the connected one about how people frequently dress to portray their religion *and different divisions within the same religion*) fascinates me--but I want to finish this message and post it sometime soon, so further tangenting can wait. Absolutely do ask if you want me to elaborate, though--and also if anything I wrote in this entire post is unclear or doesn't make sense. Like I said, I'm not at my best today.

Adding in some of the geographical features and images is something I wanted to do, so thanks! ... "Relatively flat" isn't saying much, is it? I guess the architects of the PPC city leveled the sinks out a bit. It isn't as though they don't have all the terraforming resources you could ever imagine!

Next thing I might do is try to find some pictures to represent some of the businesses and such that would fit the "old French Colonial meets new South Pacific with a bit of off-world flair" feel I'm imagining.

I made an interesting observation last night. South of the PPC city, there's a very squiggly road that winds up from the Route Territoriale 1. If you zoom in a bit and look around near the end of the road, you can see a grid blocked out, with each square about 200m to a side. Looks like surveying to me—maybe for more mining, maybe for residences? I'm not saying the PPC is responsible, because it's too close to inhabited areas... but on the other hand, you can see a continuation of the grid almost as far as the south residential area. Either the PPC did it or they're going to have neighbors soon.

Oh, not really related, but have a Mapcarta link I came across while getting the feel of the area: https://mapcarta.com/16629128 I'm not sure how accurate it is—IIRC, Nétéa is in the wrong place—but it's got the peaks labeled, at least.

~Neshomeh

I read that implication as well and would also like further clarification.

Your map is looking excellent, by the way, even though I have just cluttered it up with camera icons...

Did you know that there is actually a named peak in the city area? Pic Poya is on the border of the south residential zone, and has an official marker on top of it. Presumably, hikers occasionally come up to look at it, which leads to the PPCers scrambling to cover up their presence. (There are a few other markers in the area; I'm working on them now.)

I've also found two sets of photos of the area. One dates from 1967, and shows the old mines; the Hunger Games Arena is featured a few times. The other set, from about 2011, is from someone named Lillian who walked right through the middle of the city. She's provided several shots of the area itself, which she characterises as a sinkhole. She's also given some some utterly gorgeous views of the surronding area, of which this is by far the best:


Quite how the Flowers managed to hide the entire city from her as she walked through, I have no idea. Possibly they pilfered some tech from Wakanda.

I've also stuck pins in a few of the local mountains. Of note is Mont Boulinda (not the same as the much larger Boulinda to its north), which is 1137 meters tall. I mean... I'm pretty sure some Star Wars agent has added a 1m cairn to that by now.

hS

I did appreciate the apology, but the rule seemed less hard-and-fast to me, as some of the subsequent comments implied, since he appears to have said that he's now accepting female betas.
My main objection wasn't the rule itself, necessarily, but there were some implications in the comments about "we all have desires" that bothered me more. It's possible I misread the implication of that, but it did seem kinda dismissive of both women who might not be interested in men, which is something that bothers me a lot, or of people's ability to restrain their desires in general.
I did worry that I came across as "apologize harder," and thanks for pointing that out. He apologized for the rule, which is fine by me, but didn't retract or clarify any of the implications about women, and it's those implications that I would like an apology for, or explanation of.
I don't object at all to you asking me to clarify- I don't want to be hurtful at all, especially since he did apologize, something that I appreciate.
(I might also not have seen all of the comments that were made, which may mean I missed a clarification on Neo's part).

I'm not saying it's not!

But, OTOH, Neo already apologized, and his subsequent comments very clearly explained what he meant. It certainly seems that he has a hard-and-fast relgious RULE here. That means it's not really because of some assumption he has about women in general. The way Neo himself describes it, it seems (my personal thoughts on the very concept of that sort of rule aside) to have been designed as some kind of safety precaution against the absolute minority.

Either way, I am, very seriously, asking if your request is necessary. That's down to your opinion. I don't know, and if you answer yes than I'll absolutely respect that. But I want to be sure, because the "good, now apologize harder" response to an apology (which, to me, is how you came across—this may not have beem your intention) tends to concern me. It's a pretty strong thing to say, and it really has the tendency to sting.

I'm not sure if it's any of my business though...

Because I couldn't resist. This may also grow eventually. Equally unbetaed, and unfortunately very short right now.


There wasn't even dust to settle. One moment, Jack was there listening to her talk; the next moment, Tosh had blinked and Jack was gone.

There was an old black car in the exact spot where he'd been, one of those classic cars kept in loving condition.

"...Jack?" Tosh looked around, then turned on her comm. Maybe that would-- "Oh God."

"What?" Owen wanted to know. "Listen, it's a bit busy over here, so if it can wait--"

"I think something turned Jack into a car," Tosh blurted.

The silence stretched, then snapped as Owen snorted. "Right, then. Nice time for a prank. I'm back to work; don't let me know if he becomes a motorbike." His eye roll, though invisible to the others, came through loud and clear in the tone of his voice before he switched his comm off again.

"What's all this about, really?" Gwen asked. "I like a laugh as well as the next girl, but--"

"It's not a joke," Tosh said. By now she'd recovered enough to pull out a device and start scanning. "Jack's gone, and there's a car that's...don't laugh, but it's wearing his coat."

So, here and there, I've fallen into the habit of writing what the Das Sporking comm calls "spitefics" about various badfics brought up in the Discord's badfic channel. For anyone who doesn't know the term, it essentially means writing a (usually short) take on how the badfic scenario could go more realistically, or in a more satisfying way (or how the concept could be written better).

I've also been told I should repost these on the Board. I did start hunting them down, but I think then busyness happened? At any rate...

...here's the latest one! Might as well start recent and work backwards, right?

The badfic: FourMoonsWatching found this Supernatural Torchwood crossover (NSFW), which I don't want to click on again even to get the title or summary. In short: Rowena turns the Impala into a somewhat OOC Jack--in name, appearance, and personality only (he otherwise remembers being the car, not anything about Jack Harkness himself). Why does she do this? Apparently, she figured it would be funny to turn Dean's car into a hot (and clothes-less) guy so he can have a threeway with Dean and Castiel, who are happy, fluffy boyfriends with no hint of even past angst regarding Cas apparently falling completely (he doesn't so much as fly them anywhere, even when it'd make sense--though, to be fair, I don't know exactly when this is set) or any sort of crisis on Dean's part regarding accepting being into guys to the point of admitting to it out loud (and very easily). (While I don't completely object to fluffy AUs, and I can see why people write them, I both personally prefer at least references to how things got worked out--or even that they did--and feel it keeps things more IC.) Once they have that...romp, Jack turns back into the Impala, because that's how long the spell was supposed to last.

I...wrote a different take on it. I'd originally seen the description in the chat and figured it might be the-Impala-becomes-Jack-with-his-memories, which sounded more interesting. Everyone also read a bit OOC to me.

This is my take. It's currently pretty short (and unbetaed); more could potentially be written at some point, but I don't think it'll be happening tonight.

Comments welcome :) Spitefic is only NSFW in implication--more like PG-13 or so.


"Alright, so we'll swing over and--" Dean stopped talking abruptly. Seconds later, he'd pulled a gun.

"Whoa, hey, take it easy!"

The new voice--a completely unfamiliar one--caught Castiel's attention as well. He turned, frowning, with the duffel bag of things to leave behind still in his hand.

Dean glared. "Where's my car?"

"How should I know?" the newcomer retorted. He glanced down at himself. "Where are my clothes?"

"Yeah, where are his clothes?" Sam put in. He'd stopped short in the doorway; now, he frowned at Dean and the newcomer alike as he walked forward to join him. "Who is this guy, anyway?"

"Captain Jack Harkness," said the man, with a flashing grin. "So, you all sound American. Tourists, or is this--?"

"Yeah, welcome to America," Dean said gruffly. "Cas, give him your overshirt. I don't want to see that."

Jack raised his eyebrows. His expression slid over into flirtation, easy as breathing. "Are you sure?"

"You've got two guns pointed at you and you're flirting?" Sam said incredulously. "Really?"

Jack winked, but took the button-down Castiel held out to him and tied it around his waist. "Thanks, gorgeous."

"Hey, hey." Dean stepped between them, keeping his eyes on Jack's face. "Don't try sweet talking him. How the hell did you get here? And, more importantly, where's my car?"

Sam frowned. "Yeah, uh--where is the Impala? I have some things to add to the trunk, if there's room."

"The Impala is gone," Castiel said. He watched Jack impassively, apart from a tiny frown. "Captain Harkness appeared in its place."

There was a collective exchanging of glances, broken only by Jack's cheerful, "You can just call me Jack, you know."

"Oh, God," Sam said finally. "No. No way. No--you don't think he's the car?"

"Don't be stupid, Sammy."

"He could be the car," Castiel said thoughtfully.

Dean turned a betrayed look on him. "Dude, really?"

"It would make sense, Dean," Castiel said. "The Impala was there seconds before we saw him, and there are no tire tracks."

"Maybe he moved it, or something!"

"I'm definitely not a car," Jack put in. "Never have been. And I don't know what happened to yours, either--or me, for that matter. I was in Wales five minutes ago. With clothes on, too, unfortunately."

"Wales?" Sam said. Cautiously, he lowered his gun. Jack had yet to do anything threatening, other than appear unexpectedly, and he couldn't possibly be carrying a weapon, if he was human.

If he was human. The gun rose again, just in case.

"Yeah, Wales," Jack said. "I live there. Have for most of my life, actually. You can put the guns down, by the way--I won't bite unless asked." True to form, as was becoming very clear, he winked. Sam resisted the urge to groan.

"Yeah, the guns are staying up," Dean said gruffly. Jack raised his hands briefly in surrender, then slowly returned them to his sides.

"Dean," Sam said after a moment. "If he isn't the Impala--which he could be--what if the car's in Wales? What if they swapped?"

"You think Baby's in Wales?" Dean looked downright offended. "Come on, man!"

Jack laughed. "Oh, God--can you imagine? I have a team there, people I work with--I can just picture them trying to communicate with the car they think I might have turned into, working on a translation program, trying to figure out what scans to run..." He laughed again.

"You got a number to call?" Dean demanded. "If my car's in Wales, I want to know now."

I think the docks (and drydocks) are a separate place from the stockpile. I put the stockpile(s) in New Cal, because, well, there were these big tanks that I had to explain somehow. You (several years later, when my version had never been seen anywhere except in one thread) put a single stockpile in HQ, and actually made use of it. Much like the rules regarding minis, I'd say the person who uses it gets to make the decision. ^_~

hS

I do appreciate that you apologized, but I would prefer it if your apology went further- like, going into "this assumption I made about women was inappropriate because x" or such. I wouldn't expect that sort of apology if you still couldn't interact because of your religion, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
The part that bothered me specifically was the "we all have desires" part. For example, I'm a woman, and I'm asexual. So I don't actually experience that sort of sexual desire. There are probably other women on the Board who have sexualities incompatible with your gender identity, as well. I might be willing to beta your work in the future, but sorry, not this time.

The TARDISes Rina had found were supposed to be the ones that the PPC had duplicated during the Macrovirus Epidemic. They'd have to go somewhere, and from what it had sounded like, there'd be too many of them to just sit out in World One.

I figured the docks out in New Cal were for the agents who'd moved into the city proper but needed somewhere to keep their TARDISes. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Since I've not said it yet, I don't mind you moving 1-Nou-1 - I just picked the first doorstep-looking thing I could find. And since the streets on that map were never put on the Wiki, and I've never named them elsewhere, you're safe to move them around at will. (Which isn't to say this won't lead to Nyx commenting on how it feels like everything's shifted recently; meta-PPC and all.)

I think the TARDIS stockpiles have been superceded; Iximaz had Rina find 'hundreds' in an in-HQ stockpile back in "Little Miss Mary", so the idea that they'd need silos out in the city is unnecessary. Perhaps they were temporary structures, more designed for people to land their borrowed TARDISes back in than for permanent use.

hS

This is exactly what I wanted! I wish I'd been paying attention five years ago. (Only five since I was still totally uninterested? How times change...)

I like your deal and I'll take it. Some stuff will definitely have to be tweaked if it's going to fit the lay of the land plus written descriptions, but that's the whole point of this project. {= ) Don't worry, it's really not that hard to change things—it's just a matter of drawing more lines and changing the names. Anyway, I was already thinking I'd have to move the city center south to accommodate 104 and my own description of a walk from 1-Nou-1 to the city center, and now I have even more reason to do what I'm inclined to do anyway. It's all good!

A likely side effect may be some newer north-south streets becoming east-west streets instead, since we're dealing with a long, narrow stretch of land. I... okay, I'll probably ignore the TARDIS stores? But I'm sure I can work in the rest!

It's nice seeing the names of my FicPsych cannon fodder heroes honored. ^_^

~Neshomeh

Uuuuhhhhh didn’t I just finish writing my Endgame review? They really do churn these movies out quickly. Good thing my brother pays attention to release dates, since I don’t pay for cable to be able to see commercials.

Spoiler warnings for Captain Marvel, Captain America: Civil War, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Avengers: Infinity War, Avengers: Endgame and Spider-Man: Far From Home.

Stan Lee always prided himself in making Marvel’s characters feel human to the audience, and out of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe, I think the two Spider-Man films do the best job of getting that across. The mundanity of the high school scenes that open this movie are such a big tonal departure from the rest of the MCU, but they do so much to make Peter Parker feel like a teenager first and a superhero second.

Boy, it sure is awkwardly coincidental that all the main characters from Homecoming (aside from the written-out Toomes family) happened to also get dusted so they could all stay the same age and grade as Peter. I thought for sure Aunt May would turn out to have survived Thanos, for the sake of emotional scenes where she would talk about the time she spent worried about Peter. But I guess not. And I guess the world has moved on pretty dang easily from the five years of psychological turmoil and economic collapse, because New York, Austria, the Netherlands, and Italy all seem to be completely back to business as usual. Repercussions? What are those? But man, I feel like I could watch the marching band snap/basketball game blip scene over and over and over without getting bored. I think I’ve developed a weird fascination with that dusting animation . . .

Looks like we’re just completely forgetting about Liz Toomes and moving straight forward with the Peter/Michelle romance now. I don’t really mind; we all knew it was coming. She is, after all, the “MJ.”

So I was a pretty avid fanboy of the 1990s Spider-Man cartoon, so there was no hoodwinking me into thinking that Mysterio was really a good guy. I mean, I was open to the idea of it; we just had the Skrulls turn out to be good guys in Captain Marvel, and I like them quite a bit. But I really just never accepted anything about Mysterio at face value. My brother and I both separately noticed some tells that hinted at his story being a lie. Firstly, my brother says that when Peter started rambling about quantum mechanics, Mysterio had a wide-eyed look on his face, apparently realizing that he wouldn’t be able to discuss the topic with Peter, which could potentially reveal his AU backstory as a fake. On my end, I noticed that Mysterio named the Elementals as the “primary elements,” but earth, air, water and fire haven’t been viewed as elements in the Periodic sense for centuries now. Also—but I should double-check this—yes, Mysterio labeled the MCU’s Earth as Earth-616, but the MCU Earth is actually Earth-199999. I think 616 is the Earth in the main comics. So yeah, I very much knew there was a twist coming, though I wasn’t certain what shape it would take. Until Peter started talking about handing over the glasses. Once that scene started rolling, I knew the shoe was about to drop.

And wow, do I completely hate the reveal? We only just lost Tony Stark one movie ago, and in the last minutes of the movie. And here, the very next film, we have an entire team of villains motivated by how mean and unappreciative Tony was to them, and using Stark technology to threaten innocent lives. We even get “treated” to a hologram of a zombie Iron Man armor clambering out of his grave to attack the camera. It just leaves a bad feeling for me, that this is (at least potentially) going to be the last major involvement of Tony in the story. It feels like a weird, weird choice.

The holograms themselves are cool enough, at least. The idea that the holograms can be so flawlessly convincing, and get picked up by various cameras just as effectively as by the human eye, plus stay so perfectly synched with the destruction caused by the drones, is bit of a stretch. But it’s a comics universe, and Pym Particles exist here, so whatever, I don’t care. I didn’t find the Elementals themselves too exciting, after so many movies go for some giant CGI monster, but what were really cool were the illusions Mysterio used to attack Peter directly. I also like that the hologram issue gave the writers an excuse to work with the fact that the spider sense really didn’t come into play yet at this point, and forced Peter to develop it more thoroughly on the fly.

Oh man, Mysterio’s final trap really changes the status quo for Peter. I know most of his closest friends will trust him, but I worry that some of the other Avengers who haven’t gotten to know him as well at this point may try to come after him. And, of course, all his loved ones are in potential danger now; the one prisoner in the after credits scene of Homecoming was already looking to learn his secret identity out of revenge. I am glad they found a way to get Jay Jonah Jameson into the MCU, since Peter seems pretty far from becoming a journalism photographer, if ever.

Maria Hill is one of my favorite characters in this universe, so I was going to say how happy I was that she got a bigger role right after she returned from being dusted . . . except, of course, that she wasn’t actually in this movie. The reveal of the after credits scene is honestly just weird, and raises so many questions that just don’t seem like they lead anywhere. What are Fury’s plans that require him to be in space? I mean, Talos is literally filling Fury’s role, and Fury is with the Skrull fleet. Why have they swapped jobs, when each is probably more suited to their regular job? Why is Talos trying to . . . I’m not sure I even caught the explanation. He’s restarting the Avengers in Germany, I think? Is the fact that it’s happening in Berlin mean that it’s somehow related to the fight at the airport from Civil War? And weirdest of all, where are the other Earth-based Avengers? If Fury wanted hero representation in Berlin, why did he only seek out Mysterio and Spider-Man to be present there? Or, more heroes to fight the Elementals, for that matter? Peter conveniently only asks after two heroes who are normally space-based, Captain Marvel and Thor. Mysterio, of course, only wanted Peter there to get to the glasses, but it seems weird that Talos/Fury didn’t seek out anyone else. Wanda alone could probably have destroyed an “actual” Elemental; she was strong enough to break an Inifinity Stone, for crying out loud! Hulk and big-sized Ant-Man could have helped with the non-fire ones, as well. So I currently feel like I just have no idea what’s happening with Phase Four.

—doctorlit wonders if the inevitable “Spider-Man graduates and goes to college” movie will be titled Spider-Man: Dormcoming

“Within the black holes, spoilers formed from the primary elements.” “Within the black holes, spoilers formed from the primary elements.” “Within the black holes, spoilers formed from the primary elements.”

This spreadsheet lists everything from the Complete List of PPC Fiction, plus a few others I found along the way, minus a few duplicates. There's only 10 items without dates on them, 8 of which were created by me. ^_^ Sorry.

There are a number of things which aren't properly filed, because the Wiki links to a collection of documents. The big one is probably Nesh's FicPsych archive - there's a dozen authors spread over ten years in there! So yeah, it's not (and never will be) complete, but if you want to read through the PPC's missions in approximate publication order, this will let you do it.

hS

(As discovered by searching my GoogleDrive for 'Caledonia')

-Buds & Sprouts establishes that Nyx, Dassie, and their kids have a 'small house' in the city.

-OH! Oh, flip! I knew I'd done this, but I couldn't find it - because I was looking for an image, not a spreadsheet:

My 2014 map of the city

It's a rendering of this image of the MyMiniCity, which on comparing to your current version has changed a bit, but is still basically the same.

The weird silo things are tagged as TARDIS stores, where the many TARDISes procured during the Macrovirus event were mothballed. I've also got the police station pegged as the local DIA branch, and it looks like the factories are entered as DoSAT branches (not that there's any evidence they exist...).

I don't think this map was ever published, so please don't feel bound by it. I would consider it a nice gesture if you kept Club Aujourd'hui at the corner of Fait-de-Choses and Bart Ronson, if they still intersect at all, and it would be nice to see any new street names I created retained (though moving them is fine). But please, please don't walk your work back for this. (For one thing, the hospital is way off where Tawaki put it - because I marked the location of a hospitaesque building in the MMC.)

-And ohhhhhh double-flip. I also wrote a Brief Guide to New Caledonia at the same time, which explains exactly what I was thinking, and introduces a bunch of new places. And it's a Published doc, which means I did put all this on the Board.

Yes, I did: here's the thread, which also includes the claim that the DOOCH have been importing hobbits into the farmlands. Which of course can't be true... right?

So I'll make a deal with you: you refrain from scrapping everything in favour of my half-hearted, haphazard, ramshackle work from five years ago, and I'll rewrite the Brief Guide to reflect your map once it's done. Shake on it? ^^

-<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/u/2/d/1xFF8he9DI24dk5CAYUVGdAWQJFBvIRzMQzJ8aErGek/pub">Help from the Past establishes that the Mini-Balrog Adoption Centre, run by Cass (who may or may not be Agent Cassie Young), is in New Cal.

So, um, as a general note... oops?

hS

I’ll admit I was a bit nervous about this mission so it’s nice to know it didn’t go too horribly wrong.

Next time, it would be a good idea to add "for religious reasons" somewhere in there. It explains what's going on very quickly, which is a very good idea since you're interacting with a group for whom that is very much not the norm. The addition that it's a religious restriction tells us where you're coming from and, as you can see in this thread, makes us immediately more accommodating. To be frank, it also comes across as more respectful--both in that you're not randomly prejudiced against a good chunk of the community (which isn't a welcome attitude here) and in that you're letting us know up front what's going on and why. It's the difference between "I can't take the test that day because I'm forbidden to work" and "I can't take the test that day because of religious reasons forbidding me to do work, including writing, on the holiday that falls then." (True story, by the way. That's a real restriction.)

...actually, I could go simpler: "I can't take the test that day." vs "I can't take the test that day because it's a religious holiday (and there's a code of religious accommodation)." That's often enough.

And at this point I'm starting to ramble, so I'll stop and get a few more minutes of rest...

~Z

That's pretty interesting, actually--I've run into a similar rule (I'm assuming from a different religion, though for all I know it's the same one--it's just statistically unlikely, in my experience), but never thought about how it might manifest online. There's also little to no online use among a good chunk of the people who follow it, though I'm sure I could turn up something written for the ones who do go online a lot more.

If you don't mind the question--is this your own extension of that rule, or an official part of it? Either way, it's valid; I'm just curious. (And no need to answer if you'd rather not.)

I'm currently trying to avoid signing on to beta more things before I've made more progress on the two projects I'm already involved with (not to mention I'm skating in and out of busy times), but hopefully someone else will be able to come on board and help you with the editing process. Good luck!

~Z

I understand some religions prohibit men and women from interacting with each other without an escort. That's fine.

However, your post is vague on the subject of what trap you mean, which people you think are at risk of falling into it, and whose desires you're concerned about, and I have some concerns about potential conflict between our expectations of our members and your beliefs. Could you please clarify what you mean?

~Neshomeh