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That's probably exactly true. I decided I liked the term, never looked it up, conflated it with an existing one, and then forgot how that happened, and here we are a year and change later. Sigh.

I do like it, though. And the idea for a trilogy. ^_^

~Neshomeh

'Irtha' ('of her') is attested, but 'ontha' is my own formation, though a pretty obvious one: 'on' and 'ir' are 'him' and 'her' respectively.

... of course, with that foolish 'read aloud' comment, you're giving me some very strange ideas.

ENG: On a time, in the dark, Maglor stood facing Constance the warrior. "I hunger to taste thy exceedingly fair breasts."
GNO: Diradhin, ba vorthi, Maglor rôthi had Bronwen i aithron."Nin-saitha thlib ar tithron gwandronta thas."
QEN: Kalendesse, lómisse, Makalauren hine Vorondwenda i ektarnta. "Ni-saite sulpe tittet vanildinen tye."

hS

Have a magical device which, when installed correctly into a standard-issue clothes dryer, will send your socks ten minutes into the future.

(Anyone get the obscure reference? No, I didn't think so.)

... (way back when we founded the Continuity Council), I can point you at the promotor fidei, the 'Promoter of the Faith', AKA the Devil's Advocate of Roman Catholicism. Their job was to argue against the canonization of a prospective saint, in contrast to the Promoter of the Cause, aka God's Advocate.

Where you've picked up the term 'Naysmith' from appears to be this:

"But we are still creatures of flesh and inclined to repeat our past mistakes, so I have been careful to surround myself with naysmiths to rein in my arrogance." ~Magnus the Red, A Thousand Sons

^_~

The proliferation of terms do lend themselves to a hypothetical series, though. You'd have Naysmith, Devil's Advocate, The Loyal Opposition... and just like that you've got a trilogy.

hS

... Hogwarts. Not in the present, but at founding. Even if you posit Slytherin as eeeeeeevil (which I don't), you still have three people with very different views on what makes a good student, all working together to build a school. I mean, you know Helga occasionally had to resort to closing the kitchens to get the other three to see sense, while Rowena's preferred tactic was to explain at tedious length exactly why she was right until they gave in. ^_^

Going back to WoW, I can see how the MMO setup would be ripe for this: it lets you set up sub-conflicts beneath your main one, without there being a Secretly Evil faction involved. The more players you have, the more complexity you can work in.

hS

The Board archives place me here in 2004 at least, and your name rings a vague bell - hi! It seems that a lot of us oldbies are coming back right now.

I see it, but Rance is an actor, not a writer.

Obviously not in regards to the Alliance/Horde conflict, but various subgroups within those factions each vying to make themselves heard and push what they think is the best agenda for each faction.

Take the kingdoms of Stormwind and Gilneas, for example. They both support the Alliance, but they have different ideas of how to do it. Stormwind are definitely the Gryffindors of the bunch—wanting to rush into a fight to get the drop on their enemies. Gilneas was reluctantly dragged into the war after the Horde sacked their kingdom, and they're much more likely to call for defensive measures and scouting tactics before jumping into a fight (unless the Forsaken are involved, in which case, all bets are off).

1. Arl Eamon's Camp in Dragon Age Origins. While he admits the Warden could form a rebellion they should seek a political opposition to restrain Loghain and stop the Dark Spawn.
   
   2. Cerberus in Mass Effect 2 (It becomes a different situaiton in 3). The Illusive Man is acting in what he thinks is Humanity's Best Interest, it is just in a wildly different manner than the Alliance.
   

I totally approve! I don't really have any of that info anymore- I just remember it was a collaborative piece between the three of us. I still do have my, oof, pretty bad fanfic up that is mentioned in the story "Legolas and the Mermaid". It's on fanfic.net under "Leelee5" (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1152199/1/The-Mermaid-and-Legolas)

I think I sent this story into a contest, which is what led me to the PPC? I know I then migrated to God Awful Fanfiction website, which had an easier message board system for me to follow.

I was using AOL back in 2003, which never saved group chat or emails, so sadly, I just don't have the info. Nothing dramatic happened between the authors, I think we just all went our separate ways.

I was just rewatching the Twilight Zone episode "Showdown with Rance McGrew", and realized it's got a lot in common with an Official Fanfiction University. We see an established Suethor (In one episode of the western, Rance the self-insert had fallen from 800 ft./≈244 m. onto a horse without killing either himself, the horse, or its rider) setting up a fic that throws Jesse James so far OOC he actually comes back to the land of the living to get some sense knocked into McGrew.

Glad we can appease~

Please feel free to poke about the Board!

/offers you chocolate bark of any flavor of your choice.

As would many people I know in various sections of the internets, I suspect.

Didn't end up trying to translate from the Gnomish myself, I'm afraid—I've fallen down a very fun writing well that's taking up most of my brain right now—but I have read the translations, and compared to the Gnomish, and noticed some interesting things about the grammar. Possessives at the end of phrases, right? "of his," "of hers"? Strange! But does make it more poetic, potentially.

The language would be very interesting to read aloud.

~Neshomeh

... Okay, when I started writing this post, I was completely convinced there used to be such a thing as a naysmith, whose job it was to challenge the assumptions of the other people making the important decisions, like the Notary on the Continuity Council. Now that I Google it, though, I find no support for this. Apparently the surname Naysmith or Naismith comes from the occupation of a cutler. Did I make this up? O.o

Well, that aside... you could cast someone like that as a hero in a story. Maybe the people they're arguing with aren't even wrong, they just don't have all the information, and it's up to the loyal opponent to find it before it's too late?

~Neshomeh

I wrote the current version of that wiki page! Glad you don't disapprove. {= D

I don't know if you'd remember much from back then, or would have any bits of writing still hanging around on a computer, but as one of our self-appointed historians, I'd love to hear anything you've got. There are a few things about the Troll Division that weren't quite established, such as what Fixie Dust and Grapnades are, and how "sunning" a troll actually worked, and it's not every day you get to talk to a primary source. Plus, I like the one Troll Division story there is a lot, and I wish there had been more. ^_^

~Neshomeh, who joined roughly mid-2003.

What type of strategy game would be good to look at for a base, then, so I and whoever my team ends up being can start from there?

-Twistey

I'm eatpraylove, and I haven't been nearly active enough to be the resident anything of the Board. Glad you found your way back to us! *gives popcorn*

I'm glad that this community has changed people's minds about fanfic. That's a win in my book.

For your newbie gift, here's a vial of white liquid that shines purple and gold. It's a potion made of ground-up Nether Stars from Minecraft. It renders great power, but also causes really bad mutations. I haven't made any in a while, but I decided to make a batch for science! Probably a bad idea, considering that only one person knows how to create the antidote and she doesn't come to the Board that often... but anyway! Welcome aBoard!

-Twistey

Hello from a fellow D&D fan! I think you'll be happy to learn that there's some D&D-related content that the Board community puts out periodically. For your newbie gift, have a couple spell scrolls, sent to you by my Level 5 elf wizard with a note of kind regards. Welcome aBard I mean Board!

-Twistey

I'm Twistey. I need not say much about myself because you'll get to know me soon enough. Here, have a very flat flamethrower.

-Twistey

Although I might likely wait until later, as the date that the Shipfest was last year is looming, and people might seize the opportunity as well as the popular "ship the rivals" rationale to write some interesting femslash about us... Plus also I'm the author of "Man on a Mission" and I'm therefore going to be too busy putting too much effort into Shipfest fics.

-Twistey, who would actually be amused if someone actually did write a Shipfest fic of us :P

I've ran through some Knights scenarios and even a poem written by Aldegund in my head, though, so I could finalize them and write them down.

-Twistey

I was 23 in 2003, so i am WELL OLD now, haa. Reading through all this is like dusting off some really old memories. Thanks for the nice greetings! :D