Subject: I'm going to make a point of reading more missions now. (nm)
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Posted on: 2018-06-21 02:22:00 UTC
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A final goodbye, some parting words and a few announcements by
on 2018-06-17 21:21:00 UTC
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I have said all along that I intend to read this, and I will by
on 2018-06-19 09:16:00 UTC
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Now, in fact. I'm going to review as I go along, so watch this space.
hS -
Thank you. by
on 2018-06-19 19:15:00 UTC
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I'm writing this as you were three chapters in, and I'm very glad you're liking it.
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Blank Sprite: Chapter 1 review. by
on 2018-06-19 09:59:00 UTC
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Chapter 2 review. by
on 2018-06-19 12:24:00 UTC
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Chapter 3 review. by
on 2018-06-19 14:14:00 UTC
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Chapter 4 review. by
on 2018-06-21 14:40:00 UTC
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Chapter 5 review. by
on 2018-06-21 15:36:00 UTC
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I'm glad you liked this chapter. by
on 2018-06-24 10:23:00 UTC
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Chapter 5 was the one I had the most doubts with - it is basically Sergio's backstory narrated by him in a single sitting so I was afraid it could be too infodumpy. I'm happy this is not the case.
And yes, I believe Corolla is my best character, too. -
Chapter 6 review. by
on 2018-06-22 15:19:00 UTC
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Chapter 7 review. by
on 2018-06-25 12:33:00 UTC
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Chapter 8 review. by
on 2018-06-28 10:38:00 UTC
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Goodbye then... by
on 2018-06-18 07:22:00 UTC
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And the C&C is now done. by
on 2018-06-21 14:03:00 UTC
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Posted it on Blank Sprite 15. To people here, read the story, it's so worth it.
Goodbye again, I guess, and thanks for the help on that one Madoka trollfic i missionned... -
Thnak you for your review. by
on 2018-06-24 10:06:00 UTC
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... I was offering you a mini as a farewell gift? by
on 2018-06-24 13:02:00 UTC
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(Dang, and yet I didn't read something with a Teiko in recently, and worst, I had Keiko's name right in the same review, so how I end up doing this...)
Yeah, Stubborn Mongoose is ringing some bells... The bandana, I think (Saw him on the presentation video for now. Playing the game just joined y list of things to do...). -
Goodbye, this is why I don't use the discord. (nm) by
on 2018-06-18 02:00:00 UTC
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Discord in general is deserving of its name. (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 22:59:00 UTC
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Well-played. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 02:17:00 UTC
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... *tosses golden apple* (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 10:58:00 UTC
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Give me that and I'll make you ruler of the PPC. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 11:10:00 UTC
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No no, clearly the wisest course would be to give it to me. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 14:28:00 UTC
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I'm hot. Gimme. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 14:34:00 UTC
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Let's weigh the options. by
on 2018-06-21 15:17:00 UTC
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We have Spartans here? by
on 2018-06-21 15:41:00 UTC
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Uh... what about if I offered to let you rule them too? That would include Helen, obviously...
I mean, personally, given the presence of multiverally-aware goddesses, I would've gone for a bigger name than Helen. Luthien, maybe?
((... does this mean I'm now roleplaying Lesbian Hera? ~hS)) -
Ah, but with great wisdom comes great power. by
on 2018-06-21 16:12:00 UTC
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In return for your gift, I can in return gift you with the wisdom to conquer your enemies swiftly, rule your subjects prosperously, and woo the lady fair, too, if that's what you're into.
How do you think I got where I am, eh? Waving a big stick and batting your eyelashes are well and good, but only if you're smart enough to pick the best time to do it.
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... I'm still the hot one. Gimme. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 17:36:00 UTC
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/shoves Nesh at you instead by
on 2018-06-21 23:13:00 UTC
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/deliberate misinterpretation of what you wanted to be given, activate!
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Even though the Shipfest has been and gone I'll allow it. =] (nm by
on 2018-06-23 00:40:00 UTC
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Now I picture Zeus and Hera trying to woo the same woman... by
on 2018-06-21 15:58:00 UTC
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Some people would say that line of thinking has run to its end. I think this trainwreck needs to continue. For science.
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Oh, you would not believe the stories I have. by
on 2018-06-21 16:42:00 UTC
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Desperate/Sick attempts to one-up you? by
on 2018-06-21 17:03:00 UTC
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It paints the relationship between you in a so screwed-up way, even beyond the 'official version'...
Science and mythology need the authentic versions of these stories. Think you can spare some time to do so someday? -
Well, you asked for it. by
on 2018-06-21 19:40:00 UTC
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Robert Graves was himself a man with some weird ideas. (nm) by
on 2018-06-22 03:09:00 UTC
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What, you mean... by
on 2018-06-22 09:01:00 UTC
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... every single Greek myth ever wasn't about the ancient practice of sacrificing your king all the time? Huh, who'd'a thunk it? ^_~
Yeah, he's weird, and his prose is kind of terse and dull. But it's the only complete telling of the Greek myths I've got to hand, so.
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Two recommendations by
on 2018-06-23 03:04:00 UTC
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I would give Thomas Bulfinch's "Mythology" and Edith Hamilton's "Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes" a try, though the latter has Heracles-Bashing. It casts him as a big, dumb, brute, even though he demonstrated cleverness on many occasions.
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A fun intro... by
on 2018-06-26 10:48:00 UTC
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Thanks (nm) by
on 2018-06-27 01:27:00 UTC
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There is a point where we needed to stop... by
on 2018-06-21 20:04:00 UTC
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Hang on, weren't like... by
on 2018-06-21 23:05:00 UTC
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Oh. It's one of the muses. by
on 2018-06-22 09:10:00 UTC
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(Oh, it's on, Herasoron, it's on.) by
on 2018-06-25 01:29:00 UTC
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Oh dear, my dear. You are so tragically misinformed. by
on 2018-06-25 10:40:00 UTC
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Well, I can fact check on my own time, because I'm not done! by
on 2018-06-26 00:51:00 UTC
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Herasoron's Resolve is tested... by
on 2018-06-25 15:35:00 UTC
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"The walls close in, and every shadow hides conspiracy." -
Actually, calling off the battle. Scaphrodite wins. by
on 2018-06-26 00:53:00 UTC
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You managed to be funnier than me in this situation. Partly because I'm tired and can't think straight, but you just win in general. I'm going to take notes from this event now.
-Twisthalia -
What about the whole "Heracles" thing? (nm) by
on 2018-06-23 03:05:00 UTC
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Fare thee Well by
on 2018-06-18 01:24:00 UTC
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Good luck to you and whatever you do next!
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/waves/ Go Well, Sergio. by
on 2018-06-18 00:15:00 UTC
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I'll keep an eye out for that future book. /Optional!Hugs
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I haven't been reading many spinoffs... by
on 2018-06-17 23:00:00 UTC
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Currently I'm finishing reading the Original Series as part of my preparation for a Permission attempt, but now that the Wiki has been discovered as miraculously unblocked on my computer, Blank Sprite is going on my list. Just for a fellow PPCer.
I understand your decision and I wish you good luck with whatever you do next.
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I haven't read most of Blank Sprite by
on 2018-06-17 22:34:00 UTC
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A lot of that down was down to not having any idea what was going on by the time its existence came to my attention, and feeling like I didn't have the time to start at the beginning with various other goings-on and priorities, both life and media-wise.
That being said, I do agree we have a general problem with not reviewing or at least acknowledging we've read stuff around here - so I'm going to make my Nth call for people to at least drop an "I read your thing (nm)" on stuff they read because it's better than cricket noises.
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That's exactly what I was going to say! by
on 2018-06-18 18:43:00 UTC
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Call for datapoints by
on 2018-06-18 19:37:00 UTC
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I have many thoughts about this entire thread. by
on 2018-06-20 00:05:00 UTC
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Sadly, yes. by
on 2018-06-19 09:13:00 UTC
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Tangential question by
on 2018-06-19 16:04:00 UTC
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How understandable/enjoyable should a mission be if you don't know the canon? Does it depend on the fic and what exactly's bad about it?
(And, from what I can tell, all we know about the related question "How understandable should a PPC story be if you don't know the spinoff?" is that many recent stories are having problems in this regard.)
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Hmmm. (+ a whole long thing on agent reintroductions) by
on 2018-06-19 13:08:00 UTC
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Sadly I think it's more on the readers. by
on 2018-06-19 16:24:00 UTC
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I'm going to make a point of reading more missions now. (nm) by
on 2018-06-21 02:22:00 UTC
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A realization by
on 2018-06-21 20:08:00 UTC
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Google Docs by
on 2018-06-26 10:37:00 UTC
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I love Google Docs. That's where I do all my writing. Which is probably why I hate reading finished works in Google Docs. I always have a nagging feeling that the work isn't complete when I am reading it there. It's probably just a weird thing specific to me, but just throwing that out there.
The main thing, though, is that I was gone for a long time and it's like a foreign country to me now. I don't know many of the people, and fewer of the agents, and I'm reluctant to go back and start at the beginning to learn the agents, especially if I have no knowledge of the canons. -
Wiki talk pages? by
on 2018-06-21 22:32:00 UTC
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Either user pages or agent pages, if they exist.
Though, every mission of mine links to my user talk page, and I think it's been used once in the many years since I started doing that. I don't know if that's because there's an aversion to it, or because the people who tend to use the wiki tend to be active and thus review when things are first published, or what.
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I think it's a combination of lots of factors. by
on 2018-06-22 09:33:00 UTC
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My pledge: If you review my story, I'll review yours. by
on 2018-06-22 09:43:00 UTC
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/gently nudges by
on 2018-06-28 23:26:00 UTC
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Since I figure you might be interested...?
Didn't want to push anything off the front page with a new thread, is all. |D -
A few thoughts by
on 2018-06-19 17:10:00 UTC
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Most of us are petty in that way, I think. by
on 2018-06-20 00:38:00 UTC
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Hey, I publish so rarely . . . by
on 2018-06-20 05:28:00 UTC
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. . . I could never expect anyone to reciprocate reviewing my stuff without the use of time travel.
—doctorlit should have gone to sleep twenty-eight minutes ago, but that doesn't prove Nesh right or anything -
The Comic Book Problem, Strange Canons, and solutions by
on 2018-06-19 23:59:00 UTC
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Thoth's recruitment: A review. by
on 2018-06-25 16:11:00 UTC
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Thanks! by
on 2018-06-26 04:58:00 UTC
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About the unfamiliar canon thing by
on 2018-06-20 20:32:00 UTC
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Would it help if one of the agents was slightly less familiar with the canon so the other might have to explain more obscure details? Or another solution would be to create a sort of appendix providing a short 2 sentence summary for specific terms that people may not be familiar with. It usually doesn't detract from the mission reading experience if I'm not a fan of the canon so long as I get informed in some way of why it is a charge.
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Yep! by
on 2018-06-20 21:55:00 UTC
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It's why there's devices like the Fictionary, in-universe; even when a fic is the right division for an agent pair, that doesn't mean they have the canon knowledge! Or need to have it, as long as the mission writer is willing to do the research.
I've seen people do post-mission A/N summaries of what's wrong about a given fic's plot-points, as well (an example off the top of my head would be SkarmorySilver, as well as Herr Wozzek's missions). -
Mission length is fixable. by
on 2018-06-20 00:51:00 UTC
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Nah, I was mostly implying... by
on 2018-06-20 02:02:00 UTC
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That if I let myself go, I'd be at hS's ego until it was. Apolgies for the connotations.
Yeah, hS's was one of the first spinoffs I read, and I am... unusually enamored. -
I just haven't read many missions recently. (nm) by
on 2018-06-19 02:57:00 UTC
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Meanwhile... by
on 2018-06-18 20:05:00 UTC
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I just feel like I'm bad at criticism. And if I don't have anything to say, I don't see much point in saying it.
Of late, I've missed a lot of people's stuff between schoolwork, homework, and my own readimg and writing (Jeez, I still have a mission to work on! Paaaanic!). It is summer, so that may cool down, but OTOH, I've got a job lined up...
Also, I never really got into Ix's stuff. Just... didn't happen? I'm sorry, Ix. :-/ -
I'm not great at criticism either by
on 2018-06-18 20:17:00 UTC
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I try, a good chunk of the time? But I'm pretty sure there's a lot of issues, especially large-scale ones, I tend to miss. But I think that critiquing things is something you get better at with practice, same as with writing.
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Stress less. by
on 2018-06-20 00:20:00 UTC
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^^^ This. This exactly. (nm) by
on 2018-06-20 00:35:00 UTC
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There's a good Tumblr post on leaving critique. by
on 2018-06-18 20:56:00 UTC
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Maybe I'll try to dig it out. It did look helpful for providing starting points and I think also explaining what kind of feedback (positive or constructive) authors would love to get.
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Sorry about that... by
on 2018-06-17 21:25:00 UTC
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