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This is an oddly specific formatting that set off flags. Note the divider.

Mythcreant: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=199610;article=314792;title=PPC%20Posting%20Board
Bram (relayed by Tomash): http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=199610;article=310971;title=PPC%20Posting%20Board

-Ozzielot

I didn't want to talk to other community members about this one because it would be completely unjustifiable on the off-chance that Mythcreant and zdimensia weren't the same person. How would we, as a community, apologize effectively for doing that? I decided to leave it to other people to figure out.

I think those people came to the right conclusions, but I also feel bad about just waiting for other people to solve the problem instead of being more proactive. I realize that this is obviously a special case, but in case it does come up again, does anyone have suggestions for how to report ban evasion attempts in the future?

... beyond what has already been said? Mythcreant admitting that they actually are zdimensia will probably not happen. So, the only way I can think of: ask more Boarders, who have been around at the time, to read through this thread and the chat logs linked above, and then tell us what they think. I don’t feel comfortable depending on the few people who always do that.

HG, going to read the logs now.

Welcome aboard!

Sorry you had to show up during... this...

But that's no reason to not show courtesy! Here, have an edible computer.

No real vote, no real discussion, a few key members say they must be someone else so they get banned? That's not a community I want any part of.

I'm going to quote hS from the Makkara incident: "Once it was confirmed that 'Makkara' was Zdimensia, her ban was re-enforced. No escalation, just standard following of the rules."

We suspect, Mythcreant is Zdimensia, but nowhere is it confirmed.

"Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or do. It'll be funny."

I'm sorry. But am I the only person here who feels like this was uncalled for?

They didn't come to the PPC to become part of the PPC Universe, they came to the PPC to find a writing community they could engage in. They explicitly said they didn't post on the Board in their post, so half of your post Scape is almost pointless. They're not trying to change the whole of the PPC, they're trying to alert the PPC who don't use Discord as to the current state of the Discord, and are requesting that at least if it is not changed, that others who want what they wanted are aware that the PPC Discord is not the place to do that at the moment.

Novastorme.

I wasn't really there for much of the politics discussion but I WAS there for the write-your-own badfic. I've looked over the logs and I'm not sure what to think. I don't know how much of what Grimalkinii is saying is true, but I did think at the time that the banning of them was a little sketchy. Since I personally implicitly trust Maslab, though, I decided to leave well enough alone. Anyways, I think that maybe it might have been a bit hasty to just ban Grim like that, and I think, if they wanted one, they should totally have a second chance, if only to see how they behave without Pentagon around. *shrug* It's up to y'all, though. That's just my two cents.

I'll go for pretty much every genre, even Country on occasion. My taste in bands and artists ranges from Beyoncé to My Chemical Romance, which is the ONLY thing I have in common with Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven/TARA/Raven??? Way, to Coldplay and weirder bands like Nero's Day at Disneyland. They kind of creep me out, but it's nice to be a little creeped out once in a while. I like Classical and heavily favor Tchaikovsky. I also really like video game music; my favorite ever game composer is Inon Zur, and I absolutely love the stuff he did for the Dragon Age franchise! It's my favorite ever writing track. My current favorite song (which changes just about every time your average celebrity changes outfits) is Soldier's Grin by Wolf Parade.

Hello, everyone. Some of you may remember me from a few days ago, when I introduced myself to the PPC Discord Server. My name is White Anders, or at least that's my Internet name for now, and I was told I should introduce myself to the Board by a user who I believe was Tomash. At the time I resolved not to, due to not expecting to have a heavy presence among the PPC, perhaps only checking up on it once in a while to see what might be new. I'm hardly a comedy writer or indeed a writer of any sort myself, so it seemed an ill fit for me to join. That is still my intent, especially now that I've read through some of your... dicier discourses. The potential for conflict here seems massive and I've no wish to be caught up in one of your disputes; they seem QUITE unpleasant. But since I plan to be on here once in a while, I thought you all deserved to know of my existence, and I may or may not feel inclined to chime in a time or two about the interesting things you get up to, if that's alright. I thank you all for your time, and wish you happy writing.

No team as yet, though. For you Pokeknowledgeable types, what are the important things to consider when putting a Doubles team together?

hS

-At no point has Zdimensia's ban been lifted. Zdimensia is still a banned user. In response to an email from someone who could not be determined to be Zdimensia at the time, a single IP address was unblocked as a technical measure.

-The Nameless Admin has a duty to ensure that banned users who continue to post to the Board are blocked on identification. Since there is a clear consensus that 'Mythcreant' is Zdimensia, this was done. If tha consensus is overturned, the IP block will be removed once again, and an apology should be tendered to Mythcreant by the PPC Community.

IIRC, you and Pentagon appeared at the same time, both of you got into politics rather quickly, and neither of you made introductory posts of much note. This was an immediate red flag raise for me, because staying in the Discord is, like you said, not "the primary means of engagement with the PPC... as a whole."

I've actually got Linkin Park, Imagine Dragons, and Green Day on my iPod, as well as Fallout Boy and Evanescence. Really should add Dave Matthews and Gorillaz at some point.

Also on my playlist are a lot of fan songs by Oliver Boyd and the Remembralls and Chameleon Circuit.

And let's not forget Tartanic! We go to see them perform every year at the Highlands Renaissance Festival—if you like bagpipes, definitely check them out. If you don't like bagpipes, they'll convert you. :P

I've also had the Greatest Showman soundtrack on repeat for... basically the last two weeks? Never going to go see the movie, but damn the music is amazing.

Firstly, upon reviewing things, particularly this thread, I think this is accurate, and I would ask that zdimensia stay away, in large part because I think this is harmful to her as well. This focus on the PPC and rejoining it is not going to solve anything or heal anyone. It will only deepen old wounds and inflict new ones.

However, I do have a complaint. In my opinion, the removing and re-application of the ban was too swift. There was no consensus with clear abstainees reached, the ban and removal were applied not even four, no, three hours after the original post of this sub-thread, and a link to this sub-thread was not, to my knowledge, posted in the Discord, which I feel would have been appropriate given that this involves both the Board and Discord. Even though I agree with the conclusions of this subthread, I do not like the way this occurred.

This isn't just poetry - it's an adaptation of the lyrics to "Big Iron" by Marty Robbins. Big Iron is one of Alleb's favourite songs. =]

Neither you nor Pentagon attempted to engage with the PPC outside of the Discord. I just did a search for your username and you didn't post a newbie thread here, which seems really odd considering you want to have such a massive effect on PPC culture.

Regardless of your views on the matter, the Board is the primary means of engagement with the PPC community as a whole. This isn't up for debate. Choosing not to be a part of it at all seems to me like a rejection of the PPC's community ethos, but that could just be me. I'll leave it to everyone else to decide that, because we're a community and that's what we do.

I miiight know every word to... almost all of their songs.

I know their music is generic as hell, but dangit, it's catchy.

>For the September ban... She agreed to a block that wasn't a ban and it was supposed to simply end. Did anyone tell her that it was changed to a ban and that there would be a vote? A lot of people were telling untruths during that post as well.

I was present for that vote. That is a gross misrepresentation. She agreed to a block with review in September, and the possibility to rejoin. That review went poorly for her, and she was banned permanently. Then she impersonated other community members in an attempt to return. IMHO, that's enough to warrent a permaban in and of itself. It's inexcusable. She subsequently pretended to be someone else in order to re-enter the community. After having been banned repeatedly.

Bram has shown a consistant disregard for the rules and standards of behavior of this community. Rules that are far from exclusive to us, and are present in almost every online community. Impersonation, continual ban evasion, and breaking rules despite being warned repeatedly are not infractions for which ignorance is an excuse.

Myth, I continue to be skeptical that you aren't Bram, and your continual alteration of your story (first claiming it was "odd" that you were banned, and (by my recollection, which may be wrong) claiming ignorance of anything to do with Bram) isn't helping your case. Ordinarily, I would be more willing to consider, but Bram has repeatedly shown herself able and willing to lie and engage in amoral behavior in attempts to return to this community. And Phobos's point about your mannerisms also stands: you are far too similar to Bram for me to believe you're anyone else.