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And punted/blocked from the Discord. I'm open to further conversation, if people think this was the wrong move- but several people have come to the same (blatantly obvious) conclusion.

This is an immediate banning rather than following full constitutional process because it's continuing an existing ban rather than a new one.

I have the IP because she was staying with me.

My mannerisms may be similar because we have a lot in common.

And to reiterate, there were plenty of times that she was wrong. If you'll actually listen to them, I'll type the list.

I'm seeing a pattern of jumping to conclusions and then stubbornly refusing to listen to anything that shows that they are wrong.

You mentioned that were going to have "a lot of problems with Bram in future" unless you were acted as a mediator. Thus the quote, which was directed at Bram, not you. If you want to join a writing group, basic reading comprehension does tend to help.

Of course, since you're almost certainly Bram anyway (could this account be a more obvious instance of Asking For A Friend?), the point is somewhat moot. Bram's banned already for a multitude of very good reasons that have been listed elsewhere - not "having autism", which is complete arse btw - and if you're trying to stir things up about it then we don't want you around either.

Door. Hitting. Way. Out. This conversation is over.

Same mannerisms; same IP; unusually keen interest in the history of this person they share an IP with, which they somehow didn't seem to be aware of initially, despite later claiming to know the person; complete inability to fathom the concept that Zdimensia was in the wrong...

It's clearly banned user Zdimensia, please block the IP again.

~Neshomeh

You are already banned because you are zdimensia. The way you phrase things, the way you format things, and the way you react to things is uncannily familiar. Me and my siblings don't even sound that similar. The odds that you would happen to show up with that specific banned IP address, sounding exactly like zdimensia, and not actually being zdimensia are so small as to be written off as a statistical anomaly.

We aren't buying it. We do not want you here. Leave.

To everyone else: Stop responding to zdimensia/Bramandin/TooPurple/Makara/Mythcreant.

-Phobos

If your desire to not be in an uncomfortable situation puts someone else in an uncomfortable situation, what is supposed to happen?

Did anyone talk to her about the racism? Until I asked her that, she'd forgotten about someone on IRC where the TLDR was that she wasn't racist or being scowled at, but then they said that everyone was racist. She didn't have time to process that and tell people before the ban kicked in.

Also, she had volunteered to leave, and because of a misunderstanding what might have been a short ban turned into one that was way too long.

She doesn't hate other races or want to oppress them. She just didn't know that being color-aware wasn't a bad thing.

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For the September ban... She agreed to a block that wasn't a ban and it was supposed to simply end. Did anyone tell her that it was changed to a ban and that there would be a vote? A lot of people were telling untruths during that post as well.

Are you saying that constantly getting shouted down, ignored, and outright attacked aren't valid excuses for getting angry?

I saw a post where she told someone that they had pushed her buttons and they dismissed it as untrue.

Zdemensia was not banned for being autistic. They were banned for repeated violations of the constitution and violations of temporary bans. The idea of mediation had been brought up before, and it became clear that it would not work.

Second, we have nothing beyond your word that you are not Zdemensia. Personally, I still think you are.

That's even richer than banning Bram for having autism.

To quote Maxewelle: There was the talking about "oh, they're autistic, what if we're just having a communication disconnect," and we eventually decided with some input from other autistic borders that this was not the case.

I'd like to know a little bit about the other autistic boarders and how well they can judge... Did they even acknowledge that all autistic people are different?

To put it more reasonably: We don’t want a mediator. The situation is resolved as far as the community is concerned, and Zdemensia returning can easily be settled by banhammer. At this point, there are no valid excuses for their behavior, and there is too much bad blood for a friendly result to moderation.

There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved through a suitable application of the banhammer.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Or do. It'll be funny.

I know her. I didn't want to tell you this immediately, but here we are.

A lot of the stuff you say about her is completely wrong. You've dismissed her point of view by calling her variations on crazy, which happens to be a gaslighting technique.

I don't completely have your side of the story, so there are some things that she said that might be inaccurate. The truth is probably between your two versions of what happened.

She's in an institution right now, so I'd like to wait until she gets out to discuss this.

You're probably going to have more problems with her if you don't let me mediate.

If you don’t want to talk to another member, then that should be allowed. If a situation is specifically making you uncomfortable, we have no right to force you to remain in that situation.

I probably should have said something sooner, actually... Sorry.

I'm not sure that the desire to not talk to someone should be absolute. Of course, that's probably why mediation is in the constitution.

There was this guy I knew who said he wanted to be just like Christopher Columbus. When the situation was finally resolved it turned out it meant that he wanted to do something worthy of being remembered as a hero. He was just going off of what he was taught in school.

One girl in the group knew the true history where Columbus was a sociopathic monster. She called him some pretty nasty names without explaining why she was mad. The guy kept his cool and asked her why she was going off on him, but she walked away and demanded that he not come near her.

He was bothered about it, but there was nothing he could do. The girl told others that the guy wanted to torture people that he didn't consider human. It wasn't resolved until after he was beaten up.

https://pokemonshowdown.com/

Saves your teams, which are all fully customizable in terms of moves, items, natures, and IVs.

It also has this nifty feature that lets you save battles so they can be linked in the document for posterity. :)

This is, unfortunately, not a great time for this to come up (seeing as we're having a state of the Discord thread above), but it needs posting anyway.

When Mythcreant came to the chat to complain that they couldn't post on the Board, I figured out that their IP matched the one that Makarra (zdimensia's most recent account) had posted from. I sent them to talk to the Nameless Admin about getting it fixed, since there wasn't any immediate indication this wasn't a case of a blocked IP address being reassigned to someone who wasn't banned.

However, over the few days since then, evidence that Mythcreant is another account created by zdimensia/Bramadin/... has accumulated. A lot of it can be found in the following chat logs, which contain just about any conversation Mythcreant was in. I've had several people point out zdimensia-like behavior (such as going "they said they're autistic" and "they did apologize" when looking over all the previous drama, showing up with agents almost immediately, knowing a whole lot of oddly-specific PPC trivia, sharing zdimensia's views on Breath of the Wild, and a certain "treated unfairly to the point it might be abuse" line that sounds like their thing.) in those messages.

Therefore, I've come to the conclusion that, based on their behavior (and the IP address match, especially since ISPs reassign IP addresses a lot slower than I thought they did), Mythcreant is very likely another one of zdimensia's occounts, and I propose kicks, blocks, and other such technical measures (unless Mythcreant has some very good explanations).

In other words, it looks like I was wrong about Mythcreant initially, paging the Nameless Admin.

- Tomash

Will we be using Pokemon Online or some other sim?