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... about teens and college-age kids becoming literally suicidal because they can't go to Pandora (the planet from the Avatar movie). I am firmly in favour of encouraging them. If someone's life is so pathetic that they want to die because they can't go to a fictional place, AND they're so stupid that they watched that movie and failed to notice that pretty much everything on that planet is trying to kill everyone that lives there, they have no business living.

Characterization and plot are as much a part of good writing and good story-telling as grammar and spelling. As is knowing your facts.

~Neshomeh

At the time of posting, I'm nearly halfway through this... this thing, this abominatioon.

I'm not really mentally stable enough to do this. I don't have the necessary calm of mind to read lines like "link let out an animal cry" and not imagine link screaming MOOOOOO and transforming into a giant cow beast. What is it about things like smashing cake into each other's faces like dumbasses that suethors find so appealing? That they think everyone finds appealing? and then there's things like "I nodded no" and the bit with the deku tree speaking in mangled ye olde englishe. I can't call it butchery, because that would be too violent for what is happening. All throughout this fic the author has... lovingly tortured the english language, cutting little pieces off with perfect precision and forging them into this guillotine for the soul.

And then they pee in a cup and drink it. Gah.

Once again, the author didn't do the research. {= P

~Neshomeh

I believe it's Dreamwidth. Similar, but different. Also, the author is heavily filtering replies to that post, so anything we said there would never see the light of day. Apparently disagreeing with her in her "own safe space" of an internet journal is not allowed.

Of course, if anyone has their own Dreamwidth account and wants to do something, that would work.

~Neshomeh

You win the Understatement of the Week award.

Fair winds!

I'd be more curious to see how many people 'astral dream' their way to Pandora from the Cameron!Avatar film.

This is slightly off topic, but I wonder how many of those 'astral dreaming' types are going to congregate around the new Alice movie. Claims of actually going to Wonderland are going to push me over the moral event horizon, I just know it.

Hello! Have a seventeen foot long, multi-color, wool, knit scarf (curly wig not included), and a bag of jelly babies.

Please use them IRresponsibly!

It's LiveJournal, right? They aren't as stringent in their standards as FFN. Some people may not like it, but hey, it'd be an answer.

There's a whole group of "astral dreaming/projection" types who think they're communicating with fictional characters on some sort of other plane.

It's pretty frightening.

Kittens make everythng better.

I've heard of this fic before, and it scares me. "Lucid dream" my left foot. Of course she can't just admit she has a crush on Link; at least most Suethors have that one lick of dignity.

Funny you should mention this fic. One of my sporkers (and potential Agent) is a grown up Link Junior. He has serious mother issues and a weak spot for Sue kids. (In that he feels bad for them, not in a molester-y type way.)

Have a coxcomb. It's a sort of silly hat.

Have you tried That Series? It's up there with C*l*br**n on the list of Legendary Badfic. And there's that Land Before Time atrocity...You can check out the Legendary Badfic entry on the wiki. (I'm not going to link you, because linking newbies to the Legendary Badfic is bad decorum.)

Regarding Rule 18, you should be fine. We're a lot more diverse than we were when the rules were written, and while certainly most of us are LOTR fans, as long as you don't bash it, there shouldn't be a problem. (And I'd consider pipeweed more of a tobacco equivalent myself, but that might be just me.)

With those requirements, then, this story should be fine without Permission--don't worry, I won't make a habit out of writing non-missions. I was going to have Ranger and Robyn in a teaching role, and partner my agent with a character he recruited alongside that pair, but I found that I was writing a new agent instead of Ranger. So, I have found a partner for my agent and no longer need to borrow anyone. Though it would have been nice to see them again...

I was thinking about making the leash out of several canonical technologies. The main reason I want it to be a energy leash is the ease of putting it on. You don't want to be around my agent when he's that angry. It also has the benefits of being able to be easily extended or retracted and a more advanced shock absorbing system so the holder is not pulled off of his or her feet--and it would also be much harder, if not impossible, to tangle. A dog leash wouldn't be too bad, and my agents are now going to use it before they get the other (I hope no one minds), but I have a scene in mind that practically requires the energy one.

I enjoy the flash patch idea, but am thinking maybe something like a miniature headset with the visual translator built into glasses or contact lenses doubling as neutralizer protection. I'll think about it.

and Ok, Now Panic!. Both deliberately setting out to take a typical Mary Sue scenario (girl falls into Middle Earth) - but doing it absolutely right.

Girl magically falls into Middle Earth: check
Higher purpose at work: check
Falls in love with an (almost) canon character: check

Well-written, believable, rounded, well-characterised: check.

Genuine character development requiring effort and chance of failure by protagonist: check

Proving it can be done right: priceless

You want redundancy? You want misuse of grammar? You want uncomfortable sex scenes? You want redundancy? You want a self-insert Mary Sue? You want complete and total destruction of the canon? You want almost no conflict? You want redundancy?

Of course not! Nobody wants those things! But we got them anyway in the form of My Inner Life. A Mary Sue (loved by all, it should be noted) hooks up with Link and has kids with him. Can be found here (http://linksqueen.tripod.com/mil.html) or here in humorous audio form (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKzJ9_oKnCs). The audio one is in multiple parts.

There weren't any signs on the PPC Wiki that this particular story had been already sporked, so I felt that it should be presented to the boards for analysis. You know, for Science!

I just wanted to ask:
Wasn't "Mary Sue" ALWAYS a negative term? I mean, we get the phrase from the famous Star Trek fanfic that MOCKED that kind of character. When was it ever neutral?

Now, I've only just joined the board, but I've read quite a few badfics, so I suppose I can offer some rudimentary advice :P and I have to agree it's very difficult to decide. I started with the pokemon one, since I know quite a bit about that. While there's not too much character development available in the two chapters to make her seem perfect, the story starts by talking about her HAIR (oh god, my immortal flashbacks) and lines like "When you were a baby, a gypsy was passing through Blackthorn and walked by your father holding you." Eevee told her through thought. "She stopped and told him, 'Your daughter will be blessed with a great gift, a gift no one will understand, and she will be able to calm even the most menacing beast." are VERY sue-like. She's also written 3 stories about Twilight, which is suvian from beginning to end.

I think that if she is a sue, it's very borderline. The twilight stories are, of course, suefics, but then again Twilight is a series which encourages sue writing and everyone and their mother has written a suefic on ff.net about twilight. I can't offer any opinion on her code geass fanfic because I've never watched it and frankly don't like the sound of it because I'm british.

...if this author is a 'Suethor or not:

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1451137/Salamence_Rider

Mainly, I'm more focused on the fandom of Code Geass than anything else. I really don't like some of her writing, so I need some confirmation please.

~Xani B.

Beautifully put, and if you fancy it, I'd heartily approve of posting this and linking the essayist to it.

How did you guys know I was in to Warhammer and Early 20th century Military gear? (seriously - I'm still trying to find out if it's legal to own a WW1 trench spike in the UK, and where I can find one if so). Well, I'll take the helmet, it's better than what we get in the Guard. And the antibacterial sword will come in handy when I need to amputate my limbs in order to escape my inevitable capture at the hands of chaos. The granite pillow is far more comfortable than the standard issue one so thanks for that. The emperor scorpion I can throw at the commisar when I invariably fail my leadership test facing down a horde of charging berserkers, and the bumper sticker I can use to cover up the plasma flash burns I have after Larry's gun exploded in a blast of searing light. So thanks to everyone! :P

Poor Larry. I always thought there was something wrong with him.

And now, some controversy! I've read the rules and I know for a fact that I'm good with most of them. I've never had a problem with other people's opinions, and I respect people's free will, but about rule 18... well, I don't HATE lord of the rings, in fact I think it is quite good fiction and it pretty much invented high fantasy, but I don't think it's the masterpiece everyone makes it out to be, and it starts really slowly. I actually skipped past the shire portion of the start of the book because it was going on about things like baggins family history and I don't know if this was just my version, but it had a 30 page foreword on such topics as the consistency and usage of Hobbit pot. Otherwise it was very good and I would recommend it if I knew anyone who had more mental stamina than a gnat with ADD. So there. Am I getting banned now? :P