A reference to:
1) my own sporking of "Martin's First Time" in which Martin is totally unsurprised by the random mention of a unicorn: http://chelonianmobile.livejournal.com/2007/08/10/
2) a weird Twilight one with the worst extended metaphor ever: http://community.livejournal.com/itslikewhat/2336.html
Both links are not-worksafe.
"My Immortal" gives us the wonderful band name "BloodyGothicRose666":
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/MyImmortal
I also reckon there is at least one line in there which would make a good song title for said band: "Why Couldn't Satan Have Made Me Less Beautiful?"
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Okay ... current favourite is "Unexpected Unicorn". by
on 2010-02-10 22:08:00 UTC
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Speaking of what you're on about... by
on 2010-02-10 19:57:00 UTC
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I think it might help kick-start things if you gave us a few examples yourself. It's your idea, after all. {= )
That said, Barid and I DID have some fun coming up with band names based on stuff in C*l*br**n, but I'm not sure we should post them on this supposedly family-safe Board. ^_^;
~Neshomeh
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Yeah, it's a phase. by
on 2010-02-10 19:55:00 UTC
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I've been there. I think it's right in between being completely unable to accept criticism and seriously considering what other people have to say about your work. I mean, if they're constructing a lucid counter-argument, at least they are taking the time to think about what you said, even if they can't accept its validity (yet). In a best-case scenario, in time and with perspective, they'll be able to look back and understand your point, and that will help them become more receptive to criticism in the future.
Of course, there are always times when an author has to stand up and say "No, I did that on purpose, thank you very much, and it's not my fault if you didn't get it." Sometimes that's true. But mostly it isn't. That's the part it's hard for writers to learn. {= )
~Neshomeh, who is now in a phase such that she gets annoyed when people DON'T give concrit.
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That is an excellently interesting site, thank you. (nm) by
on 2010-02-10 19:47:00 UTC
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Re: And I'm not even sure I was on it. by
on 2010-02-10 02:57:00 UTC
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Not really, at least until they have matured enough to want the help. If all they are doing is defending against your concrit, then they didn't really want it. I've been there, when I was less mature.
I don't know if you have heard of Critters or not, but they have a couple of articles on how to give crits to those writers that say they want the help, but don't respond well. According to the site, it isn't perfect with the occasional spats between authors and critters, but maybe it will help.
http://www.critters.org/whathow.ht
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And I'm not even sure I was on it. by
on 2010-02-09 22:33:00 UTC
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I think what I may have been getting at is, what does one do in a case like that? I've been asked multiple times by friends in creative writing courses to look over their work, and oftentimes that's all I get back, 'your argument is invalid because of this and this and this'. How can you help someone improve, especially someone who's asked for the assistance, when they're so... defensive?
...is there even a way?
(and wow, I've sidetracked a little from the original discussion, whoops.)
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Your train of thought has been derailed! (nm) by
on 2010-02-09 21:40:00 UTC
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Oh, definitely. by
on 2010-02-09 16:10:00 UTC
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I think I meant more egregious flaws than that... but I've lost my train of thought. My apologies. ^^;
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Hello and Welcome! by
on 2010-02-09 14:53:00 UTC
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Welcome to the PPC Posting Board! Have some chocolate, and enjoy your stay.
P.S. I highly recommend the Percy Jackson books, especially if you're like me and love mythology.
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Thanks. (nm) by
on 2010-02-09 13:36:00 UTC
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Re: And then there's the kind in between... by
on 2010-02-09 13:06:00 UTC
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I always had the impression that we don't go after "not bad, just... could be better", but "so bad it's horrible" fic. It's definitely more fun and easier to spork a fic with a horrible blatant Sue, OOC characters, and bad spelling than it is to spork one with a slightly Sueish char and some typos.
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And then there's the kind in between... by
on 2010-02-09 07:50:00 UTC
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There are, of course, the ones who will run with con-crit, and genuinely make the effort to improve, and the ones who will do as Maudlin Hart says. And then there's my least favorite, the ones who take the criticism, pick it apart, and then give you back all the reasons it's not valid while completely ignoring the fact that they could be less than perfect.
What does one do with those, I wonder? A sporking, as well? It is a rather Suethor-ish thing to do, but some of them actually do have work that's not bad, just... could be better.
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Congratualtion... by
on 2010-02-09 00:10:00 UTC
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You are now the proud owner of the mini-Toruk, Keluturel. He enjoys fangirls, Avatar 'verse 'Sues, and Push Fruit. If you can figure out a way to take him into an Avatar fic, he can serve as an early-warning for 'Sues and chapter changes.
-Honu_Wahine(the snow came back today... And, just letting you know--there's a rewrite of this mission in the works. Check back for a complete list of minis if you want another one).
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Yeah, do that. by
on 2010-02-09 00:05:00 UTC
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And if concrit doesn't work, SPORK THEIR BRAINS OUT, YO! That's my usual strategy. If they reply to constructive criticism with OMG UR SO MEEEN! whining, you can feel completely without guilt in writing a merciless parody.
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Re: Oh, I agree. by
on 2010-02-08 21:27:00 UTC
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I wouldn't mind one of the minis, or a mutated wolf (or both) and the snow here all melted away...
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I guess because... by
on 2010-02-08 18:39:00 UTC
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... the PPC all belongs, when you get down to it, to Jay and Acacia. It was their idea. We've added stuff, sure, but the beginning was theirs. It wouldn't be, well, right to profit from it.
There's also the fact that the PPC is full of a) in-jokes and b) fandom stuff which would be illegal in published form. So a book would lose the purpose and most of the unique trappings (no one would use the Flowers, HQ, Makes-Things or Remote Activators, for sure)... it'd be easier just to make something not based on the PPC.
hS
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Sporkings apply to what? by
on 2010-02-08 13:51:00 UTC
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Does anybody here have a howrse account? *raises hand*
Okay, if you do, please check out this forum: http://www.howrse.com/centre/forum/?id=331985
It's a writer's forum, and full of these horrible stories. As a howrse member, if I make fun of them on howrse, I get in trouble.
SERIOUS trouble. I don't want to get kicked off the website, but it's really bad. None of them are using any fandoms, but they are pretty much all aspiring authoresses. And they also seem to be stealing some stuff from S. Meyer's Twilight Series (Though for what reason, I cannot fathom).
I don't want to hurt their feelings, but I seriously don't want to let them have their little fantasies of becoming bestselling authors. It's stupid. To summarize these stories, they're bull.
I'm being really nasty, but it's true. I feel so terrible. Am I breaking PPC protocol by being so mean?
~Xanthia B.
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An idea? by
on 2010-02-08 13:16:00 UTC
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I've been reading several of the spin-offs, and I was thinking, "Why hasn't anyone based a book on this yet?"
Because honestly, there are some fabulous, fantastic writers in this community. If you base a book on this kind of stuff, do you need permission? I heard that writers do it all the time.
Not that I'm writing any novels, or anything like that (I'm more of a ficlet-type). Just wondering if you needed permission. It'd be nice to know.
Thanks,
~Xanthia B.
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You got the mindset... by
on 2010-02-08 01:04:00 UTC
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...you got the goggles... you got the Larklight fandom... In my opinion, you're just a few steps away from "clockwork automaton", my dear.
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Re: OH NO THEY DIDN'T!!! by
on 2010-02-07 22:55:00 UTC
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I agree that it's odd. I would have bet on Spock and Kirk being the two involved.
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Oh, I agree. by
on 2010-02-07 22:54:00 UTC
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No problem--but this ain't the only one. Want a mini or a mutant wolf? They are adoarble, but they're taking up all of my RC space. And the next mission isn't going to be any better...*sigh*.
If you're stupid or brave enough, you could take a glance at Orchidea Baia and her "Goddess of Memories." That's even worse that that fraudulent, murdering bitch.
-Honu_Wahine
(hey, how deep is the snow in your area? It's hip-deep here!)
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I propose a game: A Good Name For A Rock Band? by
on 2010-02-07 22:27:00 UTC
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To play this, you select phrases from or references to specific badfics or sporkings of badfics which you think would be a good name for a band and/or a song. For bonus points, describe what kind of music a band with that name would play.
Something like these:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AGoodNameForARockBand
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropeNamesForABand
Provide links to the badfics/sporkings in question so we can see what you're on about.
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Re: Mission plug by
on 2010-02-07 21:51:00 UTC
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Thank you for dealing with this monstrosity... I can't believe it, the movie is scarce a few weeks old and then this...