The link's not working for me, but just the excerpts are enough. :)
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*laughs* Oh, thank you for that. :) by
on 2009-03-21 07:01:00 UTC
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Re: OOC is more of a charge than a Department. by
on 2009-03-21 05:58:00 UTC
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Ahhhhkay.
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And reasonably-priced love! (nm) by
on 2009-03-21 05:41:00 UTC
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And thank you for the post above this one. by
on 2009-03-21 05:40:00 UTC
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*toasts with Bleeprum*
To humor and good writing! And a hard-boiled egg!
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That phrase reminds me... by
on 2009-03-21 05:30:00 UTC
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...of microbes swimming around in a petri dish.
"Slipper texts in a culture of unfinish," indeed. Though I guess it could be taken as rather dirty, yes. Either way, the mental image is strangely appropriate. :)
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*cracks up* {X D by
on 2009-03-21 05:29:00 UTC
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Oh, Araeph. Thank you for that. *hug*
~Neshomeh
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Re: Something I think we can all agree upon. by
on 2009-03-21 05:26:00 UTC
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This title is on the page: "Slippery texts in a culture of unfinish"
Does that sound mildly dirty to anyone else besides me? Or have I been spending too much time in the drama room?
Well, if you consider unrealistically, effortlessly beautiful Caucasian girls a minority race, then of course they promote diversity.
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Okay, folks. I need to speak seriously to you all. by
on 2009-03-21 05:25:00 UTC
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I do not speak as a Permission Giver. I do not speak for anyone but myself.
Please read the previous sentences again.
Not as a PG; not for anyone else. Got it? Okay then.
As a member of this community for the last six years, I am extremely disappointed in what I've read on this message board today. Debate is one thing, but these long and incredibly disrespectful threads are something else entirely. There are ways of disagreeing with people without being rude.
First, one does not use the word "stupid" about another person or their ideas in polite conversation with that person. In fact, one doesn't refer to the other person at all. One says "I disagree with you" or "I wouldn't do it that way" or anything else, as long as the only person one refers to is oneself. If one cannot do that, one does not speak.
Second, one does not make broad accusations about one's fellow Board-members. We don't all have to be best buddies, but we do have to treat each other with respect. If an individual has issues with another individual, the grievance should be expressed off the Board or not at all. If an individual does not like the way the community is as a whole, that individual should think seriously about leaving the community.
Third, one DOES make every effort to take posts in the spirit with which they were intended. If an individual repeatedly has trouble with that sort of thing, that individual should bear it in mind and ask the poster what they meant before responding. Do not assume anything.
On that note, I'd like to talk about the spirit with which the PPC was intended. I've noticed a disturbing trend among newer members toward levels of power and aggression, completely unmitigated by an appreciable sense of humor, that I have no doubt would make Jay and Acacia regret ever leaving the PPC for others to write about.
Get this into your heads: The PPC is NOT about who can be the coolest, most badass agent. It is NOT about who has the biggest, most explosive toys. It is NOT about who can handle the most disgusting smutfic. It is NOT about doing something that no one has done before. It is NOT, and I stress this in particular, about making sense.
The PPC, in a nutshell, is NOT a pissing contest.
The PPC is about humor, good writing, humor, good writing, and, yes, humor. If your goal is anything but both humor and good writing, then please go away. I'm serious about this. I like seeing new people come in, I really do, but I'm sick of people thinking they need to improve the PPC, be it with novelty, expansion, logic, or anything else.
One more thing. If I see anyone else alluding to Huinesoron being "high and mighty," "the new owner of the PPC," "the ultimate authority," or anything else, I really will ask you to leave. Haven't any of you wondered why he doesn't post much these days? Aside from real life, my guess is that he doesn't want to give anyone an excuse to accuse him of these things, which he is not, in fact, a party to. I've known hS as a Boarder for as long as he's been here, and I tell you those accusations are false, unsubstantiated, and uncalled-for. Stop thinking them. Stop saying them.
That said, if you do find yourself liking something simply because hS did it, you are guilty in part of putting him into the extremely uncomfortable position in which he finds himself these days. Think about your own attitude before you accuse hS or anyone else.
Enough of that.
The PPC has no logic. The PPC needs no logic. We got along just fine without it. All we need is friendly and respectful people, good writing, and above all, a sense of humor.
I don't want to argue about this. In fact, I don't even want to see replies to this post. My e-mail address is exswyzie14 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com. If you want to say something, e-mail me.
Again, please don't reply to this post. We've had enough long debate threads. Other people need your attention, too.
If you read all that, I sincerely thank you.
~Neshomeh
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OOC is more of a charge than a Department. by
on 2009-03-21 05:20:00 UTC
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It'd be a bit pointless to have a department for OOC, since Out of Character is a charge that crops up in most badfics.
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*bursts out laughing* by
on 2009-03-21 05:00:00 UTC
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"Intrepid"?! Bahahahaha!
Ahem.
Ah, yes, the Mary Sue. Boldly going whereeveryno other has gone before! She makes me proud...
...to be an assassin.
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Something I think we can all agree upon. by
on 2009-03-21 04:44:00 UTC
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Taking a break from
Fandom Wankthe "Death Star" debate...
I was searching the 'Net for references to our, er, highly esteemed organization, and came across this. It's an article on Mary Sue that pretty much gets everything wrong. Oh, and we're mentioned.
Protectors of the Plot Continuum
Another form of community policing
*giggle*
in fan fiction is the more activist approach known as the Protectors of the Plot Continuum (PPC). The PPC establishes a voluntary virtual brigade of agents who 'correct' perceived problems in fan fiction
Yes, the likes of "Aragorn daughter of Arathorn" are only a PERCEIVED problem.
The establishment of the enormously elaborate organisation of the Protectors of the Plot Continuum affords fan fiction community members opportunities to be playful and clever with fictional structures. Like fan fiction itself, the PPC also affords opportunities for self-indulgence, in a community-sanctioned environment. The authority and standards of a virtual community can thus be enforced within the guise of a free-wheeling enterprise.
Here that, guys? We have authority! And here I thought we were just fanfic vigilantes out for a little fun. I had no idea we were Ye Fandom Police.
Teach me more, O knowledgable one!
As in most authoritative structures, opportunities abound for highly opinionated and perhaps overly assertive people to bully meeker writers within virtual environments using such devices as 'Mary Sue' litmus tests and PPC agents.
The hit the nail on the head. I mean, all of the Suethors we've dealt with have been exceedingly meek, their avatar characters without any ego or pretension. THEY'RE MEEK I TELL YOU!
Chander and Sunder (2007) would make a stronger argument that such regulation attempts to shut down political spaces that may be opened up by fan fiction. In their analysis, a Mary Sue has the potential to challenge media agendas on many questions including gender, race and class.
It's not enough that we are bullies...we also aid and abet racism, sexism, and classism! We sure get up to a lot for an online fanfic community.
I guess they're right, Boarders. I apologize for not realizing all these years that Mary Sue was a feminist beacon for the ages. She defines, sorry, defies all the most awful stereotypes of women, from the aggressive Warrior Chick to the fainting flower to the Can't Seem to Stop Using My Feminine Wiles seductress.
(And how many poor and/or minority Mary Sues have you seen, by the way? Yeah, me neither.)
According to an article they cite, Mary Sue is often a pejorative expression, used to deride fan fiction perceived as narcissistic. We dissent from this view. In this essay, we rehabilitate Mary Sue as a figure of subaltern critique and, indeed, empowerment. … As exemplified by Lieutenant Mary Sue, this figure serves to contest popular media stereotypes of certain groups such as women, gays, and racial minorities. Where the popular media might show such groups as lacking agency or exhibiting other negative characteristics, Mary Sues are powerful, beautiful, and intrepid (599).
I'm going to leave this paragraph open for comment. I know I'm not the only snarker here. Have at it, Agents! Your honor is at stake!*
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* = Unless, you know, you don't take Mary Sue assassinations 100% seriously and are here to have fun. But that, of course, is out of the question.
~Araeph
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Well, we tend to frown upon evil... by
on 2009-03-21 04:07:00 UTC
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...but zany antics are encouraged. ^_^
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Hey there! by
on 2009-03-21 03:28:00 UTC
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Have an egg whisk! It's shiny, gold-plated, and whisks not only eggs, but spambots and author wraiths! Use it for good and not evil.
Welcome to the insanity!
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Dep. of OOC by
on 2009-03-21 03:24:00 UTC
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I know we have DOOCH, but is there a department for just OOC? Or it is merged with something else? I want to stick my Agent there.
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Thank you! by
on 2009-03-21 03:05:00 UTC
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Wait...the coffee doesn't have bleeprin, right?
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Albeit one where, regrettably, I can't edit posts. (nm) by
on 2009-03-21 03:03:00 UTC
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What makes you think that? by
on 2009-03-21 02:50:00 UTC
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[/sergeant sarcasm]