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Constant vigilance, everyone!

I read a couple of webcomics which have, on occasion, featured underage nudity. Not graphic underage sex, but definitely hints. Is this likely to cause a problem? (The ones in question are Jack - the arc "Suffer" was about child abuse and showed a naked kid, nothing had happened but it was clear what would have happened if the main character hadn't burst in - Gorgeous Princess Creamy Beamy - the heroine's fifteen and there was a storyline set at the Japanese hot springs where she and a bunch of her classmates spent most of the arc nude, but not actually *doing* anything other than standing around - and Concession - the incident with Artie and Chelsie, again it was non-graphic but obvious what happened.) I wasn't aware of the law against drawn depictions of underage sexual conduct when I first read them, and it may not have been in force. I'm also pretty sure the law is only against stuff designed specifically to be porn and "lacking artistic merit" - which is silly because how do you judge it? - and I just won't look at them again if it's a problem. They're all hosted in the US, so not subject to UK law.

... and is stumped. A humanoid cannot become a tentacled head in a jar. Well, not with science as it is now. I mean, you could cut the head off a humanoid and *put* it in a jar, but that doesn't explain the tentacles. Does this head, y'know, live? Or is it a preserved specimen?

As to the sex-change, well, those happen. I don't know the canon or the details though, so I can't comment any further.

*Biology goes away to change out of the ridiculously uncomfortable spandex*

if they try and do you for original work ... yeesh.

UST is always comical. I vote for keeping it :)

Yes, poor Lucy. And Susan. In fact, I'm pretty sure they would all have been pretty bloody confused and annoyed by having to have their teens aaaall over again.

Biologically and looks-wise he's an adult, probably about the equivalent of his early twenties. Chronologically, he's only been alive for a year. Emotionally, he varies between early-twenties and twelve, and occasionally "outright non-sapient". And he has the memories of growing up as a non-anthro non-sapient fox, which may or may not have bred. I would love to see the lawmakers' faces as they attempt to puzzle that out, but not so much that I'm willing to be prosecuted over it. (One of the reasons Drake probably won't be scoring with Stormsong any time soon, though the main reason is "if we remove the UST, it's no longer funny".)

Speaking of Narnia, I always felt sorry for Lucy. Having two first periods in a lifetime can't have been fun at all.

And I hope never to see it again. I'm in the 'Jack is the Face of Boe' camp myself, although I am stuck on how a human(oid) can turn into a tentacled head in a jar.

TROJIE!!!! Biology would be nice here...

For a while the relation between the Doctor and the Master was in doubt, as in an earlier story the producers had intended to imply that the two were brothers. However, in Sound of Drums (NewWho, natch!), 10 explicitly says that the two were friends at school and not brothers.

And "hate" is a little too simplistic a word to describe their relationship, although it's probably an element...

By the way, what's with the "for all we know River Song could be Jack after a sex change" comment? I don't quite see a connection between the two characters.

I'm just paranoid about my Narnia stuff, which is sort of in a grey area regarding ages/ages of consent because of the whole growing-up-twice, and is actually the *reason* that it's interesting to write about ... but of course the witch-hunters won't be interested in the delicate power balance between two kings and their changes in age and in station through the series and how you can play with that in fic ... they'll just be interested in the fact that Smut Occured.

that not everyone who writes fic is subject to US law. I'm not, and neither are you, Trojie and Laburnum. The worst they can do to us is delete the journals/FF/AFF accounts where the fics are stored.

Given that when you upload to AFF you can select shouta and/or minor from the warnings list and some of the larger categories *cough*Naruto*cough* have Shouta subcategories, there'd be a lot of outcry if they did anything to online fanficcers. Hell, they'd have to get rid of most of the Harry Potter section if they decided to clear out all shouta/loli/minor fics.

Textual depictions of underage sex occur in plenty of published books and nobody's gone after Stephen King for that scene in It. Of course Stephen King has more money than us ... but I'd like to think we'll be fine, touch wood. I do know a lawyer I can ask for advice if necessary, but I doubt it will be.

... for copyright violations, are they likely to go after us for perceived paedophilia?

-Trojie, worried and not sure if she's getting it all out of proportion

Hm, any one of us could be targeted. Technically several of the characters I've written about in the past are underaged by American law, which is what is important when you consider that LJ is hosted in California.

If all else fails, I'm related to a lawyer.

Don't know if SRM would count because the characters involved are not human, or whether that would make it worse ... Fic should be okay for now because, since it isn't pictorial, I'm pretty sure it's not covered by the current law, and I've seen worse in published novels.

...at least the interwub police aren't kicking down our doors yet.

Problem is, though, what if the first case to hit a court is one of us? Dilemma. Draw attention to it or keep schtum and hope it's not you that gets nicked ... I dunno.

-Trojie, the mildly paranoid and easily confused by own arguments.

I like Wicked.
Perhaps the author is simply very bad at writing fic, and so she does not make an attempt to write an interesting or funny fic, but takes refuge in really boring bull? I've seen stuff like this before. Pinned up outside a fourth-grade classroom.

Does anyone know how to peacefully protest something like this without making us look like child molestors? I'm sure there's gotta be a petition or something we could start.

I know the problem. I'd saved some badfics for potential sporking, but they featured graphic depiction of shota (any sane person would have classed it as "depiction of child molestation" but the ficcer wrote the brats as somehow being capable of informed consent, as they do. Sigh) and I'd have cut that out in the sporking because it's gross, but I deleted them because I didn't want the things on my computer any more. And of course my computer history shows I've read the sporkings of "Little Miss Mary" and the MST of "Brightheart the Cub Sitter" which did cut out most of the squicky bits but there's still enough there for it to be clear what was going on ... It's harder to get away from than you'd think in sporking comms.

... after all, I have sporkings of Narnia actorslash on my LJ. That's ... not going to look good, even if I didn't write the stuff. It's just not.

Ficcers are going to be easier to catch than actual pornographers/paedophiles, because we're not generally actively trying to hide. Of course they're going to go for easy targets. Sigh.

Talk to me. I'm always up for joint-missions, 'cause, honestly, they lessen my work and they're more fun. And NO ONE touches that musical.

...I say that about all my fandoms, though. Alas. So yes, I'm up for Wicked-musical missions. Not up on book canon, but musical I can do easily.

... this whole thing is becoming a society-wide witch-hunt, and it sickens me because they're putting effort into this rather than helping actual children. We've gotta do something, but I don't know what we could do which wouldn't make everyone assume we support real paedophiles or something because people are insanely dumb.

If you don't write or draw stuff which involves underage characters, you should be fine. I'm a little worried about my "Shadow Rapes Matthias" MSTing, though - I didn't write the fic, but the fact that it's on my website, even for the purposes of being mocked, would be enough for some stupid people.

Way to alienate most of the fandom there:
pairings i hate: 10Martha, 10Donna (it is not a romance, it is a friendship), 10Reniette (ick!), 10Jack, 10Simm (they hate each other and they're half-brothers, why the hell would they have a relationship?) 10River Song (for all we know she could be Jack after a sex change), 10Astrid (you know i get the feeling that someone decided to make 10 a man-whore), Jack/John, Jack/Owen, Jack/Jack, Gwen/Rhys, Snape/Lily (it's a friendship not a romance), Snape/Harry, Snape/Lupin, Snape/Sirius, Draco/Harry, Draco/Hermione, Draco/Ginny, Harry/Ron, Harry/Cho Harry/Hermione, Jasper/Bella, Jacob/Bella, Emmett/Bella, Allan/Will, Allan/Djaq, Robin/Much and Guy/Marian.

I don't know about the Robin Hood and Twitlight pairings, but they 'hate' most of the most popular Ten and Jack pairings (including Ten/Jack) and several of the most popular (and vocal) HP pairings.

I have no idea what they mean by that 'half-brothers' comment. Is that canon, either TV or book?

How do you tell truly bad fic from troll fic? You mentioned the time of the posting--are there other ways to tell? (Aside from blatantly obvious ones like, "Aragorn stole the Ring and became the new Dark Lord and everything exploded HA HA HA")

Incidentally, I can give a hand on book!Wicked missions, though I don't know much about the musical. So if you have a book-Suefic waiting on the backburner, I might be able to help out.

I don't want to be a bother, but is the nameless Abhorsen from your last mission still up for adoption? Or did you decide to keep her/someone else already claim her?

Looks like a lot of her stories could use sporking, just from skimming through them. Most of them have bad grammar and bad het. And the author doesn't seem to quite understand certain aspects of canon...*twitches*