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I'lll add that it's nice to see you after a two-month absence too, Meta. And if you wanna chat, my email is availible.

--Ls

The character designs are really good - Corolla and Nikki in particular really stand out as being themselves. And of course Corolla is right.

Kathleen just encouraging the chaos is hilarious. :D

(I will get round to chapters 19 and 20 eventually...!)

hS

The boards better anyway, so just hang out with us here instead. ;)

Sorry I didn't respond to this very quickly; it's been a busy week!

I like the history of "Mary Sue" that you outlined there. I knew the history, of course, but this is a nice, macro explanation that cuts straight to the general trends. I agree with you that reclaiming Mary Sue through a feminist lens is a doomed exercise, because the character journey of "start out awesome" just can't be fit to any living human of any gender. As we've said more and more around here, lately, it's not the litmus traits of an individual character that make them unenjoyable, but their presentation in the narrative. And we, as real people, have to build our own narrative, and can't just latch onto a god-like figure to emulate and find success. That being said, though, I do think there's a lot of validity in criticizing the knee-jerk reaction to labeling a character like Rey a "Mary Sue" as though she has no complexity or struggle to her character. (And yeah, a lot of those doing the labeling were very much sad young men who felt their hero-fantasizing space being invaded by wOmEnZ, ther'e's no denying that.)

Okay, I know this is going wildly off-topic, but uh. Ayla. I'm four titles deep into Earth's Children, and I have to defend Ayla against the "Mary Sue" label. I know Ayla is good at a lot of things, she's a lady of many talents and insights, but I don't feel that any of her ability is undeserved. Her childhood, at least the portions we see where the narrative picks up in the first book, is absolute hell. I'm not going to bother listing out everything that happens to her, mostly because a good chunk of that is triggering for some folks here, but we see everything she goes through right there on page. She's good at hunting because she eavesdropped on the men, and later was forced to hunt just to feed herself. Her medical talent came from training under a medicine woman and practicing medical care. Her skill at reading body language and facial expression is a result of the Clan culture she lived with, learning their form of communication. Her figuring out "where babies come from" is the result of her own experiences, and observing the behaviors of people and animals around her. (Honestly, for me, Ayla figuring out the rough mechanics behind the process of conception is a lot less realistic than the fact that no human culture depicted in the series figured that out first.) A lot of her inventions, like the needle, are just modifications she made to existing inventions, and really, she doesn't have a monopoly on technological developments: it's Jondalar, not Ayla, who creats the spear-thrower; the Ramudoi carve entire, full-size canoes out of tree trunks; heck, Attoroa even invents fascist dictatorship, not that that was good thing to invent, but it's still a complex idea developed by someone other than Ayla. Really, the only trait Ayla possesses that feels purely Doylist is her attractive appearance, but even that was turned against her for close to two full books, because living with the Clan, and under their beauty standards, convinced her she was ugly until she started interacting with Jondalar. So yeah, I'm team Ayla, and sorry for this whole rant, but I had to defend my girl.

—doctorlit attends a Twilight convention wearing a "Team Ayla" shirt and manages to mutually confuse everyone there

I'm sorry for the long-delayed review; it has been an extremely busy week.

I started relating heavily with Fáelán when he spoke about not wanting to stand out from the crowd and be paid attention to. I always feel very vulnerable and disrespected when zoo guests are staring at me through exhibit windows. And the prospect of being out in public and making someone mad at me by saying the wrong thing, or not having the right expression on my face, is terrifying. But then, Fáelán explained why he feels that way, and it gave me pause. He seems to have rooted his fear in seeing the way other people are treated, rather than his own feelings. And that's rather sad; I want to be left alone overall, but Fáelán seems to want acceptance from others, but thinks he can only achieve that through conformity. I hope Helena can eventually show him that standing out doesn't always lead to negative outcomes! (I'm rather surprised the conversations just stopped at that point; it seems like Helena would have a response to what Fáelán said!)

One minor nitpick, maybe:
. . . for a ridiculous creature mucking up Tolkien universe . . .
I feel like that should be "Tolkien's universe"?

—doctorlit is almost done straightening out the bookshelves after his mom "cleaned" his condo

I liked the animation. They’re SOOO CUTE!!!

Erm, sorry. But I would to do that too.

—Ls

PS: If you ever want to chat, my email is clickable.

Chaser Wolf still needs rewriting, but Squirrelking and Cassandra Claire are fine. The blanked ones need deletion.

—Ls, wiki-ing

As a non native speaker, SergioTurbo is past the limity of his ability to parse the bad grammar. lightning4evah, on the other hand, likely either stopped caring or foung something else shiny to follow.

In which the identity of the Professor is finally revealed, and of course we have the Final Battle. Though, of course, since I'm talking about arcs, it isn't really the end of the story of the Unraveled World.

As usual, can be found on Wordpress and AO3.

My new email is linstarguy(AT)gmail(DOT)com, if you wanna talk about anything. I know we've not interacted much, but it's nice to see you!

Seeya round!

--Ls

Theres mor to the fic!!! Read the rest first!!!

Ur just a hater!! U suck!

--lol

Left the server for personal reasons but my DMs are still open if anyone wants to say hi. Realised I probably ought to say something here rather than drop off the face of the planet, haha.

I downloaded Gacha Studio, the character maker and scene editor-only version for PC, and I'm putting it to good use.

So, I just discovered Gacha Studio (blame MelTheMel's entry for the PPC Badfic Fest), and of course this gave me Ideas.

And so, behold! The first prototype-ish episode of Wings of Canon PANIC?!, the most recent entry in my now fairly convoluted list of PPC spinoffs under the Wings of Canon umbrella!

The idea is, this spinoff will be basically a collection of silly short stories and omakes in chibified comic form. They're quick to make, they're (hopefully) fun, I'm having fun making them.

The plotbunnies go on vacation. Oh well, I forgot what the actual summary for that swabloo one was anyway, so no harm no foul. Look forward to seeing what we come up with!

I decided to look at ur fic since u talked crap about mine and its so bad and low effort how can uou even call it a full story it is just a poop paragraph

((the community is a bit insane though, it's full of some crazy suefics and slashfics I'm trying to work out how I could spork sometime, but yeah it's a great tool for making characters))

PrepssOp faming!!!!1 I dno car wha u fink so der!1 Fangz2 Bloody mary 4 da halp!!!!

"Getout peps!" yieled anrily.

"Ivony udot undersa!!" Carlisle (his name isnow Corpse ( like vampe lo u rok) and alsohes sicksten is not ceeyok)) "I LOVE YOU!!!111"

Omg i said. "Rallyh, corpse?

"NT POSSIBLE!!111" shooted Boadecia who was here to. "thee mustbe other factors!!

Nikki appered. "Yoj will submit totheMuystous sumbodb. Then hewll kil all!!?:THEB THEbarm lad will never die!! shd accelerated

Detention appeardd. "Cruella!!! " heyoild. Niiki died again.

Jayacacia and Britne ran away preppily.

"That was close," said Designation. Ill go find Mightnare.

Minna cam."OMGz i fought u were ded, " I sad flirtingly as i began tosob.

She"s not eaf;": said Copse. "Shez my partnet Idno"

"Let's et u dressedfor yor triple dat wih Denigration Nigmar nCoffee. " sh said goffly.

Ok " I said glumly. I put on a black tod with red leggings and apink wmini (not lik thatmini lol) with rippd balck fishnets.My nails wer blac wh prumple pinigrads. Mymakeu was wghit and goff.

"lol grl u look kawai," said Momok wowasnt ead either.

Den...................

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.. .........................Profesor Makesthings appeared!111

(C dat ws rllyh god)