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Lindsey landed on top of her.

“Ow,” Mina moaned.

and likewise not wanting to be left alone, Lindsey maintained her grip on Mina's ankle and the heroic struggle began, a battle of titanic forces. Could Lindsey keep hold of Mina without loosing her own grip? Could she haul the other agent back up to the safety of the floats top? Could she defy Mina's bad luck powers?

Of course not, she was an eight year old girl and so after what she would later describe as an epic struggle (but in reality lasted barely a second) Lindsey felt herself pulled over the edge, still clinging to Mina's foot as she plummeted.

She finally lost her grip entirely and fell onto ground.

I'm not really that big on TWWA, but I've been keeping up with it, and your work is a fine addition. Or spinoff, or something, but who'd ever write a spinoff of someone else's fanfic? =]

The Hemlock Holmes story was much more my speed. I enjoyed it when it was posted here, but it flows a lot better in a single document. =]

She glanced back and forth confused at the lack of people below, her eyes finally falling to the broken RA, moments before diving to grab Mina's ankle, trying to hold her steady. "You know if you hadn't broken the Remote Thingy then we coulda just portaled off!"

You can consider that DEFINITELY being thrown in, once I've translated it into High Gothic. Assuming I have permission from you to use it, I mean. Hell, I don't even have a lot to say about it, it's a really comprehensive and fascinating addition and I'll definitely be adding it into its own section later.

I'm really grateful that you took the time to give it a read. I know you've been in the Discord, but it was scattered over four months of rambling conversations in a chat channel. I know how draining it was to go through and hoover up to put in a single document, because... that's exactly what I did here. So yeah, thanks for giving it a shot now that everything thus far is in one place. The Fenrykan Heresy: your one-stop shop for Leman Russ, Herald Of Tzeentch. =]

I love the idea of the chapters being a kind of quarantine measure in particular. It should definitely come from Mortarion. Partly because, you know, irony, but also because it's the kind of compartmentalization he'd really appreciate. Canonically, Mortarion and Perturabo were all about every infantryman being their own self-contained army, equipped with the toughest possible armour and the right weapon for any foe imaginable. Having small-theatre self-contained response forces is a very them kind of move. It also ties into Nesh's comments about Angron and the War Hounds, which just works really well. I'll add that in a bit once I've translated that into High Gothic, aka "English but way more pompous". =]

As for Magnus speaking with the Emperor during his long time in the Big Tizcan Sleepy Time Snooze Nest (patent pending), I think he tries to talk to his father... but whatever of the Lord of Lightning is actually there is just drowned out by his powering of the Astronomican, so bright that not even the Crimson King can see through it to the man beneath. And frankly, even if he did, the Emperor would not care. He always considered his sons to be anything but: subordinates at best, tools more often, and failed experiments at worst. Magnus was the loyal son who tried so hard to inform the Emperor of betrayal that he accidentally blew up part of the Himalayas. Hearing that even after ten thousand years his father didn't even consider himself a father at all would destroy him. At least that's what I think.

I haven't quite decided what to do with the Daemon Primarchs who are still around (which does include the Lion, he was banished to the Warp rather than killed outright), but the Imperium Pandaemonium definitely has use for them. This is at least in part because I really like the name "Imperium Pandaemonium" and don't want to see it wasted. I imagine they're all still raiding, chafing against Guilliman's nominal command and thinking that they are the true heirs of the Wolf King, Guilliman just had it easy because he was the ultimate REMF (old army slang for rear-echelon... well, I'm sure you can guess) who never fought like a reeeeal warrior, et cetera et cetera insert daemonic grumbling here. =]

Pointing out I never did anything with Jaghatai was helpful too. I'm imagining the Daemon Khan's legions riding around as cavalry mounted on a variety of horrifying Daemons, with heavy weaponry mounted on chariots and anyone too slow to keep up forced to go faster by getting turned into a kind of entity made of living Warp lightning, which sounds bad enough already. Then they turn back, covered in scarring and scummy pink froth dribbling from their mouths and their speech so fast it's incomprehensible. Guilliman has a use for them. Guilliman has a use for everyone. And woe be-shpxing-tide you if you don't agree with what that use is.

Thanks for leaving so much feedback. I really appreciate it. =]

Most importantly thanks for the typos, always appreciated so they can be eliminated as swift as possible.

In regards to Cass, the fic she was saved from had her mostly consigned to the background but she'd be closest to Willow. Her Mother was a 100% New Orleans Voodoo Queen stereotype, who hung around with AJ and the Sue (Of course the Sue being Buffy's daughter) until she seemed suddenly forgotten about half way through.

I'm hoping to use these cadets to also help answer the question of what happened to the class of 2012, which I'd had stories for but never actually got them written down. (They weren't forgotten)

Loved it. I really enjoy seeing PPC stories that aren't necessarily focused on standard missions, and of course your stories are always entertaining.

Haven't read the Holmes story yet, but will do soon.

Not a ton to say, though—I guess it’s weird to think that I joined AO3 before hS, very oldbie, did.

I read both—it was funny to see Sherlock Holmes (Or a version of him) in Middle-Earth, and I thought that the introduced canons in London, Unreal were interesting.

—Ls doesn’t have much else to say.

No, it's not CPP yet (sorry!).

It's an AU where agents interact with badfic through VR simulation rather than actually entering the badfic.

The badfic in question is Harry Potter and has bl6 (incest) in it. I need to make sure that a) it's funny and b) people understand the basics of the AU because I know the basics, but no one else really does lol.

Uh, you can contact me easiest through Discord (current nick is Genderplasma Time!), but I'll also be checking my wiki talk page.

Thanks in advance!

-kA

(Edit: forgot the tag dangit.)

First: Thanks for sharing this! 40k theories are always fun. I also have some thoughts, drawing a bit on conversations Phobos and I have had. A while back, he came up with an alternate Heresy that involved three factions: Chaos, the Loyalists, and the Screw This, You All Suck, the latter mostly being composed of the ones who never loved the Emperor or psykers.

A lot of that Heresy hinges on Curze the Night Haunter, i.e., what if his brothers actually listened to him, and acted on his warnings? That could stand the Loyalists in this timeline in good stead, too, especially if Magnus can put up with him long enough to actually teach him a thing or two. For as the Corvidae know well, whole point of looking into the future is to gain knowledge you can turn to your own advantage.

Angron interests me here. As with so many of the Primarchs in the canon Heresy, Angron falls in large part because he's got an enormous chip on his shoulder courtesy of Daddy Dearest. Angron already believed the Emperor was a tyrant and slaver without needing anyone to whisper in his ear. Take that away, though, and remove the Nails from the equation for his legion, and what you've got left is one of the most powerful armies in the Galaxy. The strength of the War Hounds, IIRC, is that they functioned in absolute unity. Their phalanxes were unbreakable: they marched, slowly at first, then faster, faster, faster, and they would not stop. Their reputation for brutality comes from this utter relentlessness more than any particular cruelty. They're simply what happens if the Juggernaut is an army: either you get out of the way or you cease to exist.

Phobos believes, and I'm inclined to agree, that their ability to function with such cohesion is tied to their gift, the gift of their primarch: empathy. You see it in the pain experienced by the Legion's psykers when they get too close to Angron—they can't stand it. Their primarch's pain is their pain, but without the relief granted by doing violence. In the canon timeline, nobody figures this out because all the War Hounds psykers die too quickly while the rest of the Legion is busy trying to make Dad love them by partaking in his worst qualities. Supposing they do figure it out, though. What you've got then is a Legion with the potential to perceive itself so completely that it can react instantly to the shifting arena of battle, because the left flank knows what's happening to the right and vice versa. Hypothetically, they were meant to be the Imperium's answer to the Tyranids, canceling out one of the hive mind's greatest advantages.

Following the Fenrykan Heresy, with no Ultramar on the eastern edge of the galaxy to blunt the Tyranid invasion, the Imperium could sure use a force like that... Too bad the death of Angron is gonna mess up the War Hounds as badly or worse than the death of Sanguinius messed up the Blood Angels. I can see them agreeing, possibly even volunteering to be split up with their morale utterly shattered like that. Maybe they can't stand to be around each other anymore, with the pain of their father's death shared, reflected, magnified between them.

I might have more thoughts later, but that's all I have time for this morning. I hope you like my ramblings!

~Neshomeh

Ha, I love the new trainees! They have so much personality, and such distinct character voices! And "Happy Bagel," oh my gosh, what an extremely Hobbit-vibed name! But I must ask: if Aj is the Xander, then is Cass the Buffy or the Willow? Or perhaps, the Anya? Also, I'm glad Sasha gets to shine in this story, since your last return story focused more on Steven and Wallis!

Okay, I never bothered to look up the surviving portions of "Rambling Band," uh: that is the single most amazing mechanical justification for a transdimensional hop I have ever read, they drove through a giant movie screen. "Rambling Band" wins at dimension hops, you could say it's . . . isekaind of amazing! sunglasses

But Laurel herself, wow, Jay and Acacia presented her far more kindly than they needed to! She is mean. Her bandmates deserve a better bassist/girlfriend. One thing I will defend the story for, though: if Laurel is wearing thick boots, and the leg of her pants was shredded anyway, Aragorn may have simply ripped the rest of the pant leg off to treat her cut, which would explain why her boots were still strapped on.

Um, remember how I list all the typos I find when I review PPC stories? Yeah, I still do that!
". . . she had lost most of the over top the badfic generated New Orleans accent. . ."
"over the top"

"The video footage on the screen went a rather grainy . . ."
You left you a little extra "a" there! eats

". . . bringing it to the attention of far more people that the Flowers would probably like."
Although this is a lovely notion, that the Original Series brought more agents that the Flowers found enjoyable to interact with, I suspect you intended a "than" there.

—doctorlit, always glad when stories get Meta : )

London, Unreal, my spin-off of Sergio's The World Without Authors, has its second chapter:

The First Day of the Rest of Their Lives

In which Constance and Jasmine fail to break into a bookshop, meet their first canon character, and discover exactly where they've ended up. [Looks at title] I'm sure no-one will guess that last part. (Complete with maps!)

~

And... back at the beginning of the year I posted a Lord of the Rings/Sherlock Holmes mashup on the Board. It's now cleaned up and posted to AO3:

A Study in Carnë

In which Hemlock Holmes and June Whitson investigate a murder right on the borders of their very own Shire.

hS

What do you WANT me to do?!”

Mina was slowly losing her grip.

I love it. ^_^

I think the #1 best moment in the entire thing is the Atonement of Horus. The idea of the Warmaster off by himself, endlessly trying to atone for being a little slow for ten thousand years, is really wonderful for some reason.

Thinking about the Chapters again: I think you're wrong to pin it on the Primarchs this time round. Several of the Legions - at least the Blood Angels and the Alpha Legion (which really is a Traitor Legion, whatever Alpharius thinks) - fell not because their Primarchs did, but because they acted together. The corruption spreads, even up to a Primarch, whether it's plague or sourcery.

So how do you stop that spread? Quarantine. You separate pieces of the Legions from each other, so that if one Marine falls, he can only spread the infection to one Chapter, not an entire Legion.

I don't think you gave a concise list of Primarchs, so for my own benefit:

1. The Lion - Daemon-Prince of Khorne, at least briefly; dead?
2. deleted from Imperial records
3. Fulgrim - ??? presumed dead at the hands of Ferrus Manus
4. Perturabo - rebuilding the Imperium, resting on Olympia. Hexarch.
5. The Khan - Traitor, specific fate not noted
6. Leman Russ - The Wolf King, Daemon-Prince of Tzeentch, and now very dead.
7. Rogal Dorn - Daemon-Prince of Khorne
8. Night Haunter - Wandering the Warp. Hexarch.
9. Sanguinius - Mindless zombie of Nurgle. I don't think he even qualifies for Daemon-Prince status.
10. Ferrus Manus - Daemon-Prince of Slaanesh
11. deleted from Imperial records
12. Angron - slain by the Lion, Siege of Terra
13. Roboute Guilliman - Daemon-Prince of Ultramar, heir to the Wolf King
14. Mortarion - fort-builder, rests in Perturabia on Barbarus. Hexarch.
15. Magnus the Red - in a coma, then Hexarch.
16. Horus - Lone warrior on the fringes of the galaxy. Hexarch.
17. Lorgar - slain by Russ over Terra
18. Vulkan - Daemon-Prince of Chaos Undivided
19. Corax - Daemon-Prince of shadow
20. Alpharius - meddling. Hexarch.
21. Omegon - Daemon-Prince (presumably).

That is a lot of surviving Primarchs. And unlike the canon setting, there's a lot of relatively sane Daemon-Princes. The Khan, Dorn, Guilliman, and Omegon all seem to come through relatively intact, whereas in canon they're pretty much all off their heads crazy. I guess that's why you have multiple active and available Primarch left in the Imperium - to balance them out, because otherwise they wouldn't need anywhere near thirteen Blue Crusades!

hS

That's quite touching actually. :) Thanks for thinking of me.

(Still haven't read any more yet.)

I'm not sure His Nibs on the Golden Throne would agree that the Legions need to be split, but he's not exactly in on the conversation any more. I still wonder, because... the canon post-Heresy Imperium has two Legions which had basically split themselves already (the Wolves and the Scars), three which barely existed after the Dropsite Massacre, and one (the Ultramarines) led by The Man With The Plan, where The Plan is breaking things up. Your timeline doesn't seem to retain any of those factors, and I haven't yet come across any deaths other than Lorgar, so you've got several Primarchs who, like... don't wanna let go? Plus the Alphas are literally being rebuilt from the ground up with all the knowledge of what could go wrong, so why would anyone worry that they were going to contain the same flaws as the originals?

And then there's Perturabo - builder of fortresses, right? I'm not convinced that he would cheerfully oversee the breaking up of a massive force into smaller units that couldn't withstand a siege from, say, the Blue Legion. But we can construct mitigating factors - perhaps a siege went bad in the fighting on Terra, and a big chunk of his legion was wiped out, while a more broken-up group from multiple legions were victorious in similar circumstances? "I do not like it," Perturabo says, "but the logic is inarguable." (For a bonus: the Loyalist Angels were part of the mixed group, showcasing the anti-corruption benefits of the system.)

One other thought: once Magnus awakens in the modern era (I think you mentioned this in passing), would he be able to speak to the Emperor? I mean, if the Emperor lives through the immensity of his psychic power, and Magnus is The Psyker... can they talk? And might His Undead Nibs actually, finally... apologise?

hS

I'm glad you've enjoyed it so far. =]

Splitting the Legions into Chapters was technically an invention of Guilliman, yes. However, splitting the Legions at all was going to happen anyway. The Heresy was as bad as it was in either timeline because the leader of the traitor faction only had to sway, like, nine other dudes to get the overwhelming majority of their power-armoured transhuman demigods; splitting the Legiones Astartes into self-contained micro-legions with their own independence and territories prevents that happening again. At least, it does in theory.

As to why the geneseed of Alpharius is still used: the other Primarchs knew he himself never turned. The line was still pure, and he cast off the colours of his treacherous sons to fight as a Black Shield. Plus, it's Perturabo masterminding the rebuilding of the Imperium, and I've always had this sense that Perturabo is the kind of person who keeps a drawer full of bits of string because you never know when you might need one. He knows that the sins of Omegon are not those of Alpharius, and so the Hydra Shields chapter is born.

To tell the truth, getting your feedback and thoughts was one of the big motivators for putting this in a Google Doc in the first place. This is the kind of thing you've enjoyed doing in the past, in a setting you enjoy, and to have you miss out just because you don't use Discord seemed... wrong to me. So yeah. Glad you can take part in the madness. =]

This is fun. You've had to stretch a bit to literally flip the alignments (there's no single Point of Departure, except your vague "the Emperor makes better decisions"), but that's fine, that's the point. I like the fact that Tzeentch is the driving hand behind the Heresy this time around, which I don't think was the case in canon.

My two big questions so far are things that haven't changed. You mention chapters, but in my head they were a Gulliman innovation, so I'm not sure they would exist. And you also mention the Emperor staying out of the Heresy because he was sitting in the Golden Throne - but without Magnus Doing Anything Wrong, there's no reason I've seen so far that he wouldn't be out and about.

I would also query whether the post-Heresy Imperium would create a new Alpha Legion when the entire Legion except for one of its two Primarchs fell to Chaos. I'm thinking of how virulently they distrusted the loyalists from the Eisenstein and so forth, and also the whole "no, by the Emperor, you can't create Primaris Traitor-But-Not Marines, what are you thinking?!" thing. (The loyalist Angels, I can easily accept, though I'd imagine they don't talk much about where they came from.)

I also like how much you jump around. It's dramatically non-linear, but... this is the Horus Heresy! Those books have never been linear, so why should your version be?

Okay, lots to read, and I should probably do some work today too, so not sure when I'll get it finished.

hS

Lindsey moved forward to try and support Mina, before realising that it was unlikely she would have the strength to hold onto the older girl if she were to fall. Instead she fell into her father's defense mechanism of sarcasm. "No, I think you should let the eight year old drive," she muttered half angrily and half in fear. "Do something!"

Mina walked along the edge of the float. She then slipped, her fingers barely grasping the float’s edge.

But it is a Heresy.

So, for several months on and off, I've been working on (read: blabbering about) a Heresy-era Legion Swap. For them as don't know, a Legion Swap is when the various Adeptus Astartes switch sides, with the Chaos Marines staying loyal and the Loyal Marines falling to Chaos. It concerns Leman Russ falling to Tzeentch, and all that such a thing entails. Features include:-

• Legion discussions!

• Primarch histories!

• Magnus doing nothing wrong but for real this time!

• Horrible Nurgle stuff!

• The Night Haunter!

• And Much More!

• And Also A Bit Less!

Thank you for reading, and enjoy. =]

"You said you were the full agent, you know how to deal with this sort of thing don't you?" As she moaned, Lindsey looked over the edge of the float once again, wondering just where all of the people had actually gone.

Yes, maps are good. Mapses are the bestses!

—Ls