So should we settle it on mini-Hitokiri?
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Frustrating, isn't it? by
on 2009-07-08 19:59:00 UTC
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Incidentally, by
on 2009-07-08 19:48:00 UTC
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You don't have to log in. You can just enter your name, e-mail, and subject heading anew each time, which naturally gives you the option of not entering your e-mail address if you don't feel like sharing it with the world. {= )
~Neshomeh, who's never once logged in to this Board.
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Well... by
on 2009-07-08 19:43:00 UTC
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There's the Complete List of PPC Fiction and then there's the Killed Badfic page on our Wiki. Between the two, you should have just about everything that ever was or will be. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Found my copy of the Sil. by
on 2009-07-08 19:39:00 UTC
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Give me some idea of what kind of name you want and I can go looking for root words that might work for you.
~Neshomeh
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Even so. by
on 2009-07-08 19:31:00 UTC
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You're comparing the productive capabilities of the Commonwealth with a society based on feudalism and slave labor. I'm perfectly happy to believe that an advanced republic could churn out and maintain a lot more ships with a lot less effort than the Goa'uld have to put into their 1000. Could the ancient Egyptians have built brick houses? Perhaps, but we do it better and in less time, and we have a whole hell of a lot more houses than the Egyptians ever did.
I still don't see how the SGC finding a diplomatic solution counts as giving up hope.
If one Goa'uld Queen was able to have a change of heart, why not another? As the Tok'ra point out, "Not all Goa'uld are the same."
As to how Ninmah's society was allowed to develop, if she was a strong enough System Lord to hold her own in battle, why not? I'll grant you that her being that powerful is a big stretch, but if you allow for that, the rest is feasible.
At the very most, you've got some bad logic and one Mary-Sue. Faceless masses =/= Mary-Sues. It simply doesn't work that way. If there were to be a mission, all the agents would have to do is take out Ninmah, maybe taking advantage of their Host Day to catch her with her guard down, then neuralyze the SGC. After that, everything Ninmah-Sue created would either disappear or assimilate with the canon. Even if destroying a planet or two were in order, the job would be made much easier by simple assassination beforehand. Remove the Sue's grip on the Word World, and suddenly it starts to come apart at the seams, leaving the team open to blow stuff up at leisure without having to worry about the defenses, which will be in complete disarray. QED.
~Neshomeh
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Help by
on 2009-07-08 19:29:00 UTC
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Um... I love reading these stories but I cannot re-find (is that a word) the complete list of stories. I was wondering if any of you wonderful people could provide a link? Please?
Although, thanks to the Narrative Laws of Comedy, I'll probably find it as soon has I post this. *Sigh*
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Hello! by
on 2009-07-08 16:14:00 UTC
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I don't know the Canon, but I'm not sure if the story is really that bad. Not all of the 32 billion might be Mary Sues. Some might be bit characters (easily tricked into crashing).
Since you're new, here's a laser-proof scimitar from the Raven Armory. (It wasn't laser-proof until I had someone tamper with it.)
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Well, I suppose I have... by
on 2009-07-08 16:07:00 UTC
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the satisfaction that, while the Emperor of the main race of my alliance was also a Goa'uld, he was evil and wanted control over everything. After people found out he was a Goa'uld, civil war FTW.
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*snickers* by
on 2009-07-08 16:04:00 UTC
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I've heard that some people weren't impressed with Season Five (mostly because of Keller), but you're the first I've met. :D I've never actually seen Season Five (no TV connection), so I'm waiting for the DVD release.
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Sorry by
on 2009-07-08 14:58:00 UTC
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I didn't think *hits self on head with a pillow*, now if you'll excuse me there is a certain cat with a habit of walking on peoples faces when they trying to sleep that I need to ... talk to ... then maybe finaly I can up catch on a few minutes sleep so that I don't make any more mistakes.
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OT: Account help by
on 2009-07-08 14:55:00 UTC
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How would I go about changing my e-mail address for this account? Or is that even possible, since my e-mail address is what is used to sign in?
I don't want to keep having to check my old e-mail just to see whether or not someone's replied to a post I made on these boards.
--Mystia, baffled
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OI! WATCH THE SPOILERS! by
on 2009-07-08 14:36:00 UTC
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This Board is an international one. Please be considerate and either stop throwing out spoilers for shows that only aired in the past two days, use HTML to hide them or give a warning that you're about to spoil. Some people won't have had a chance to watch Children of Earth yet, and you're being rather rude by spoiling it for them in this manner.
Could you also please consider using proper spelling, grammar and punctuation? It's getting a bit painful to read your posts.
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Re: Torchwood badfic report by
on 2009-07-08 13:28:00 UTC
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Can't really comment too much on the second one, not having read the book it's based on. It looks pretty bad, though, in terms of Sueishness (of course they have magical mind-reading powers...and mysterious visions...*bangs head against wall a few times*) And it looks to have serious timeline issues with regards to their ages. (This is the problem with usurping an immortal character's place in a story that spans sixty years :P).
As for the first one, though...words fail me. KILL!
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Because their Queen is a Goa'uld ... by
on 2009-07-08 13:03:00 UTC
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... who has seen the light like Egeria and has found a way to undedetectable create this perfect society that the Goua'uld don't want to destroy yet it is a civilisation which is perfectly fine with the Tok'ra and Earth even though it won't help the Goa'uld (as they wrong and evil) but won't help Earth (as "Ninmah" doesn't want to betray her people) they're like the Ascended yet their not Ascended. Oh and its set before series 9 so they have a valid excuse not to fight the Ori.
I think I smell a Mary Sue ... Oh Dear gods no the 456 from Torchwood: Children of Earth are Mary Sues ... it Makes perfect sense: the ability to survive a completely toxic atmosphere, the Destruction of the torchwood hub (classic Villan Sue) and their Message "WE ARE COMING BACK TOMMOROW" (which means today now). Every Doctor Who and Torchwood Mary Sue is going to come back to life At 9PM GMT by possesing evey child on earth in the doctor who universe ... What Are we going to do?!
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Don't Panic. by
on 2009-07-08 12:46:00 UTC
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he isn't an aircraft carrier so he doesn't have to worry about a massive airal disaster and the Sea Monsters are either Non Sapient/Sentient super weapons, Non Sapient/Sentient mutants or Cosmic horrors created by their being to many mary sues in the multiverse (or a mixture of the three) so their either Non Sapient/Sentient or their pure undiluted evil which is trying to detroy all life in which case I honestly just want to stop them.
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I would have to accept the Stargate:Atlantis finale by
on 2009-07-08 12:38:00 UTC
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but that would mean I would have to accept the Stargate:Atlantis finale as an actual episode which I just can't do.
I'd have to accept that they wasted an entire episode in a paralel reality playing CSI, I'd have to accept that was should have been an epic space battle like the end of season 7 but was instead a complete disapointmen, I'd have to accept that the IOA got hit with an idiot ball and moved the chair to Area 51 instead of keeping it antartica, I'd have to accept that Status Quo is as god when its clearly a Goa'uld and that they could have killed ***** off and actually made it terrifying instead of going all comic book death on us.
No, I'm going to wait for hotpoint to write his XSGCOM version of Atlantis on http://www.tthfanfic.org/ as it'll make me feel a hundred times better. But if you want to incorprate a Super hive in to the plan go for it just don't tell me where you found it.
BTW if we end up on Plan C we'll be risking damaging canon so lets hope we either get plan A or B to work or we come up with a better plan as Plan C is pure desperation incarnate and plan D is even worse.
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Got it by
on 2009-07-08 11:16:00 UTC
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sorry about the footnotes i'll try and cut back to one or two footnotes at most.
Secondly the problem is that a population of 32 billion or 82 billion (the author thinking of changing it) maintain a fleet of twelve thousand Hatak vessels when its commonwealth is spread across only 27 planets. Which is like 27 worlds in star wars maintaing 12000 star destroyers. it's impossible for dozens of reason especiallly consdering that the majoritiy of those people are going to be on a few of those planets which will be industrilised while the rest will be farm worlds for maintaing their common wealth.
I don't think in the entire history of the goa'uld that there have been more than a 1000 ha'taks due to the resource cost of building and maintaing one as the current standard ha'tak is mothership is a 700 meter long, 650 meter wide, 315 meter deep vessel with 60 staff cannons with a shield that can withstand an estimated at 1 gigaton of explosive force without it having any measurable decrease of the shield's power; The fact is, at least, that it consumes naquadah as fuel. We could expect the naquadah to be a refined version which may be as potent as weapon-grade naquadah and provide high power. Although much of this is open to speculation, it's more than likely that Goa'uld reactors are fusion based.
To maintain such a fleet would be impossible for such a civilisation the only way to be able to do so would require a galactic spaning empire or for it to be a Mary sue Utopia.
And that with out considering that the goa'uld are paranoid
about being found out as false gods aand are less stable than the average agent they'd destroy said civilisation in its infancy. Like how they treat Harcesis children and the Tok'ra. the only way for this Ninmah to be able to stop the goa'uld from stopping her would be mind control.
Also she has a change of heart about how she treats her subjects which only Egeria he founder of the tok'ra movement (due to being a Goa'uld Queen she literally spawned the movement) has ever done (the tok'ra don't count due to the fact that goa'uld genetic memories are controled by the queen who makes the Goa'uld.
And there is the fact that Stargate command never give up hope they have been fighting against enemies far greater than them since they stepped through the stargate. Even when there is no hope and the light at the end of the tunnel is a flame thrower mounted on a train they always find a way to win and with 4 months prep time they'd have found a way to stop this commonwealth.
And finaly they trust this commonwealth even after it was going to kill all life on earth.
I could go on but then I'd get in trouble due to spending to much time on the net and quite frankly I've babbled for long enough and I'm probably getting self righteous and annoying (if I am I appoligise).
Note: info from http://stargate.wikia.com/, also refrences to Tv tropes are made.
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I like this Ori plan... by
on 2009-07-08 10:43:00 UTC
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but what about a Wraith Hive ship with three ZPMs powering it?
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Lol. Poor Cuauhtemoc. by
on 2009-07-08 10:42:00 UTC
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Let's hope he won't end like the previous ones. And don't forget he won't participate in killing people. That includes the Sea Monster, if it's sentient. And this ship is his own person, your penguins will have a very hard time dictating him anything against his ethics.
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Wait, what? by
on 2009-07-08 10:39:00 UTC
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"The premise of the conflict is well laid out"
I'll take your word for that, not having any interest in the fic, but what about what happened before this conflict?
How on earth would the Goa'uld not know about these people? When the Tau'ri (us) started to become a threat, the System Lords began to form alliances against them. If this random commonwealth has twenty-seven planets and twelve thousand Ha'taks, then the Goa'uld would surely have called upon all of their forces and laid waste to every planet in the commonwealth.
And, depending on when the fic is set, why didn't these guys help out against the Ori?
*looks at second paragraph* Hmm... come to think of it, I once had a group of races like that (though with fewer ships). I can't remember why the Goa'uld didn't attack them, but I think it was a good reason. Meh. That fic is likely to never exist again anyway.
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I'll give you a hint... by
on 2009-07-08 10:32:00 UTC
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Glorgathon, Devourer of Worlds, as I used as a placeholder name until I could come up with one, is not an acceptable elf name.