I'd like to get around to expanding on hS' One Stop Plot Shop idea sometime soon. The potential is there, and investigating what the in-universe PPC does with goodfic just interests me.
--Ls
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I'd like to get around to expanding on hS' One Stop Plot Shop idea sometime soon. The potential is there, and investigating what the in-universe PPC does with goodfic just interests me.
--Ls
In the future at least, it's almost always better to avoid overcrowding the front page with new threads.
Of course, depending on how quickly you make your way through Fox's missions, you might end up reading one of mine, too--if we can get that cowrite done in a reasonable amount of time. :0
--Ls, who has decided to adopt kA's Not Angry (tm)
There's only a few on this list I haven't heard of before, so it seems like you've got good candidates here. I'm not invested one way or the other, though.
Except maybe for "A Tangled Web." I agree with hS that we should include that one for historical value. Also, finding it was one of my finer archivist moments, if I do say so myself. {= )
~Neshomeh
At least that was my logic.
The beginning is very functional. It introduces the characters and their basic differences and lists off the things they do. That's the vibe I get from it: A list of actions. They're very basic "first mission together" actions and not described in a terribly interesting way, which makes them feel almost unnecessary. I get how that happens, though, and you did warn me the first few missions were iffy.
That's also how I'd describe the mission entering scene: The characters' reactions are very standard, and even Charlie's reaction to not having a tail is not delved into at all. I'd recommend coming up with fresh ways to describe the actions happening and the characters' emotions if I didn't already know you were well past this point. I can tell Charlie and Jiwon's characters apart though, so good job on that! I would suggest trying to differentiate their word choices more, though, if this weren't your first mission of nine.
The rest of the mission... proceeds in the same way. It's mostly just listing off what the badfic does, listing off some very typical (for them) reactions from Charlie and Jiwon, Charlie and Jiwon discussing whether they need to exorcise or kill... it really feels like someone getting used to what A Mission is and the basics of A Mission. Which is fine! Everyone starts somewhere.
I'm not sure I agree with the analysis of the fic. This is a trollfic, right? It's supposed to be chaotic and funny. So maybe you could engage more with the things that don't make it funny, like all the bathroom humor or the drugs or the fact that it's just random chaos, rather than any inherent sin of uncanonicity. The fic isn't bad because it's bending canon to be crack, it's bad because the crack is CLEARLY diluted with sugar. Shameful!
The assassination/exorcism is... not the greatest? The first half is trying to mimic the tone and style of the badfic for parallelism but it just comes off as jarring. The exorcism bit is nice, though:
> Jiwon looked down at the pool of plant vomit, a disgusted expression on his face. “You really need to get that checked out.” He crouched down over Zomboss’s stirring form. “Um, excuse me. Over here, please?” > Zomboss slowly turned his head to stare up at Jiwon… only to immediately get lightly slapped across the face. “Alright, listen up here, Sue-Wraith,” Jiwon said in what was supposed to be a stern voice, but ended up coming out more mildly annoyed. He began lightly tapping the pipe against the metal floor. > “Get out of the zombie, you glittery… thing.” He slapped Zomboss again, but nothing happened. He paused. “Um. Maybe I should be louder? Ahem.”
This made me smile. And then Jiwon escalating in volume and confidence until he gets to "SHUT UP!" is really cool too.
You said in the A/N that you were proud of finishing this, and I think you should be. It's very clearly a first mission, but it's still A Mission, and a lengthy one, too. That's quite the undertaking!
Now to list off stuff that made me smile:
> The baby was a Sun-Shooter, (or a Pea-Flower) which produces sun and shoots peas. > "Should I… should I charge for the name?" Jiwon asked, looking over at Charlie. > Charlie responded with a shrug and a smile. > “I… sure.”
> Chapter Two: Revenge of Sunflowers Death > “Oh, she did die. Nevermind.” Charlie didn't look at all put out by this development. "Nice."
> The two agents laid in the street for a bit, stunned. The rain continued to patter on the ground, creating an atmosphere that would have been dramatic if not for the burning zombies in the background and the strong smell of bacon and burnt grass. > Charlie glanced over at Jiwon, who was shuddering and curled up in a fetal position. “Hey, you’re okay, right?” > Jiwon gave a tiny nod, making a small whimpering noise in the back of his throat.
Although this moment could have used some more buildup with Jiwon gradually getting sicker, this is heartwarming.
> “Ugh… what did I miss?” he asked, pushing himself back up only to notice the enormous, hulking zombie sticking out of the fence, making him flinch backwards in shock. Luckily, it didn’t seem interested in doing much except stare blankly at the sky. > Charlie gave a small, casual shrug. “Not much, really.” > “Not much? Charlie, there’s a Gargantuar sticking through the fence.” > “Pretty sure he was already there.”
> Charlie, on the other hand, kept up the leisurely pace they were jogging at as they ran across the field. Then their brain finally processed what was happening, and they turned back, still running. > “Hold up, those guys weren’t even attacking or anything. What even is this?” The disguised tabaxi returned their gaze forward and kept moving, though their expression had gone from casually relaxed to visibly disturbed. “What kind of person just kills folks who aren’t even fighting back?” > “These guys, apparently,” Jiwon said, slowing down as the two reached the end of the field and caught up to the plants.
Fox's most recent mission had a thread already, you didn't need to make an announcement on its own thread.
--Ls
Haven't read any missions in a while, I'm more interested in writing them. Kinda wanna fix that. And I did promise OrangeFox. This post is my way of holding myself to this standard! And I'll read them all in order!
The last of January’s drafts is ready for release! Once again a work of almost two years (though the first year was mostly forgetting about it, so does that really count?), but it’s finally out.
Harry is a dragon, and shenanigans ensue.
This also features Melpomene again, who funnily enough was freed from Up-For-Adoption stasis almost exactly three years ago! It was a fun challenge to write her, especially in a piece of this length.
(And for those who might have missed it, a preview of sorts for Melpomene happened last summer in Time Crash, a DIA piece where how she got here was given more detail.)
Anyways, hope this one works for y’all!
I just killed it because it was daft and short and let me play with too many minis. Like, it was fun, but it's just a standard "sugar high" trollfic, isn't it?
"A Tangled Web": I agree with [checks] me, apparently. ^_^ I think TOS treats it as Legendary, so we should include it.
hS
We do have a template you can use, though it's by no means obligatory. The crucial things are a link (preferably clickable, which requires [ ]( ) around your text and link), and a summary of why it's bad. This thing certainly sounds awful!
--Ls
Are you talking about PPC characters that aren't agents? Are you talking about non-PPC writing? I'm just not sure what you mean. Also, I would give a bit more detail when starting a thread.
--Ls
Hmm. Would you say that Rainbow Factory, on its own at least, qualifies as Legendary? I'd definitely call it weird!
Yeah, the funny thing about Dark Yagami is that I unintentionally added it to the Unclaimed Badfic list when I first arrived almost two years ago, not knowing it'd already been killed, haha.
--Ls
I have a few myself but I'm pretty sure they need a lot more work.
I would like to add that my summary of Drackens is really only scratching the surface of the worldbuilding that the fic gets into. I think it definitely deserves Legendary status.
Also Rainbow Factory is a weird one because the first one is hella edgy and not very good, but I recall the sequel (Pegasus Device) actually being fairly good in the sense of exploring the ramifications of how the rest of pony society would react to said edginess. It's a weird set of fics for sure.
I'm surprised that Light and Dark The Adventures of Dark Yagami isn't already counted as a Legendary tbh, it's a pretty notorious one.
Just finding a badfic, giving us a link, and saying why it's bad is not the same as writing an actual PPC story.
That said, QuietCognition does not have Permission at this point.
-Ls
Honestly, I can't even tell what sort of fic this is. It's very bad, presumably NSFW, and involves a ridiculously OOC Gumball (yes, Gumball Watterson) piloting mechs alongside his harem; I never thought it was possible to butcher TAWOG so bad. The author often goes out of their way to note breast sizes whenever a new female character is introduced.
(Ps. Since this is my first badfic report, and I could not find a guide of how to do it on the wiki, please tell me if I did anything wrong in this post. Thanks!)
It has been about two years since we have approved of granting a fic Legendary status. While we are in no way obligated to give it to any fic, there have certainly been some fics worth looking at. The qualifications for Legendary or Bleepfic status are as follows:
The main criteria for Legendary status are as follows:
Be at least five years old.
Return a decent number of relevant Google hits from the past year, indicating that people are still talking about it.
Be famous in its own right, not because of the author/sequel/prequel/fanart/whatever.
Be acknowledged as awful by a majority of PPCers with an opinion.
A Bleepfic need only meet the last requirement.
I have gone through, and for all the Legendary nominations, checked to make sure there are at least five results for that fic. For clarity on all of these, I will be using the “past year” setting on DuckDuckGo with SafeSearch on moderate.
I believe this has been mentioned before.
Anyway, it has a Fanlore article, a wiki, and even its own Goodreads page. One glance at looking it up without quotes, and every single result from the first page in the past year is about the fic itself. It is absolutely still being talked about.
To paraphrase Umbre on its quality:
“Basically it's a creature inheritance fic where Harry finds out he's a submissive dragon-human hybrid called a Dracken when he turns 16 (yes the submissive part is important). Drackens are really rare and persecuted by wizards and as a result part of an even secreter secret society except not really because when he gets to Hogwarts he finds out he has to find a mate soon or go crazy and Dumbledore has a whole mansion built on Hogwarts’ grounds for a whole bunch of dominant Drackens to stay in under some stupid pretense. Harry has to get to know and choose between like some godforsaken hell version of the bachelor only plot happens and Harry finds out he needs multiple mates because magic bull crap so there's an obligatory harem made of buff guys who all have the exact same body type.”
So… yeah. I’m all for labeling this thing as Legendary.
As mentioned in this thread, “Tangled Web could be reasonable put as a Legendary, given its reference in TOS. Frankly, I think it deserves to be grandfathered in, hence my attempt at resurrecting this discussion.
This thing is an awful mess of hilarious typos. It’s clearly a troll, and I love how funny and flat-out ridiculous it is, on a My Immortal-level. It even has its own animated version. hS has missioned it, so there’s that. However, there are only like five results that are actually it when searching the past year, and some of the results are from my MST of it last year. Maybe some other people might think it not unique enough to deserve even a Bleepfic status. I think it deserves it, but I can see that this one is perhaps more of a long shot.
I’m honestly not sure why this isn’t listed as a Legendary already on its article on our wiki, though unfortunately its mission has been lost. It clearly should be (it has its own Wikipedia page, which is something only My Immortal and Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles have). I get a decent (at least 9 in the first two pages) amount of results, but it also has a significant amount of tags of AO3. Frankly, this one is a shoe-in.
Ten results in the top twenty (without quotes!) is probably enough, especially given the fairly generic title. It’s a terrible rewrite of MLP but with OP OC ponies who are also some kind of space militia, which is so much better than MLP. We’ve mentioned it before, and here’s its TV Tropes page. Yeeeah.
I think it qualifies for Legendary.
10 results in the first two pages without quotes, in the past year. It’s definitely still discussed. Ix missioned it, and it was a great mission, with its bizarre characterization, trivialization, and blatantly traced art. The TV Tropes page has a decent overview. I honestly thought this actually was a Legendary for a while. Definitely deserves its status.
Yet another fic that has been missioned before. When I search this title, without quotes, I got 9 results in the first page of results all referring to it in the past year. The fic even has its own subreddit! I think it’s Legendary, as it’s hilariously bad. Clear trollfic, with lots of amusing typos.
This is already a Bleepfic, but given the 9 or so results in the first page in the last year, I think it deserves Legendary. Thoughts?
Probably a trollfic, but oh my gosh is that awful. Someone brought it up as a Legendary a while back, and I think I agree with the general consensus that it doesn’t have enough results for Legendary. That said, I do think it counts as a Bleepfic. Thoughts?
Hoo boy. This fic reminds me of Cupcakes–in that it's a well-known awful grimdark MLP fic. Looking through the board, I can see quite a few attempts to mention this as a Bleepfic or Legendary. We already have a wiki page for it. I’m not sure as much about the results; I think some of them might be from the song the fic is named after. Anyway, this deserves at least a Bleepfic IMO.
While there definitely aren’t enough hits for this fic to count as Legendary, it is definitely a Bleepfic. In the Discord, it’s been mocked for almost three years straight, and with its OP region of nonsensical totalitarianism, I can see why. Bleepfic for sure. Also, it has a wiki, which is an absolute jumpscare.
I’ve brought this up before because oh my gosh this Stu is the most evil fictional character I’ve ever read about.
“This is a wish-fulfillment and Gary Stu-type novel, so read at your own risk. If this is not your type of story, please move along and do not complain.”
Edward Bones is like Voldemort; only more egotistical. He goes around murdering people simply because it would be convenient for him; and he goes off on insane rants about some perfect space wizard society he would create after committing “countless atrocities”. And did I mention how insanely OP this character is? Because he is. Incredibly OP.
I think Edward Hitlerhands is worth being called a Bleepfic.
Yet another insanely OP Gary Stu; this one is a fellow named Kiactu Maheem. He is also nonsensically OP, and these fics are full of awful writing and really creepy, misogynistic elements. I would call this a Bleepfic for sure, as there is very little talking about this in the past year (aside from MSTs I’ve participated in).
This one is from the Portal fandom, which I am not in. But I have heard of it before on other MST sites, and aaaaah. That is… no. The SPaG is terrible. It’s clearly a trollfic, and I think it’s funny. Check out its TV Tropes page.
Hooo boy. This fic is ancient (Agony In Pink beats it by 3 years) and it is bad. Really bad. It is a crossover between Back to the Future and The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and the crossover does not fit. Frollo is insanely OOC, and there is racism aplenty. Absolutely awful, and deserving of Bleepfic status, even if it doesn’t have many hits from the last year besides my and Yuki’s MST of it.
If you have any comments on any of these, or have any other nominations to add, or anything else, please do so!
–Ls has been working on this for a while.
Edit: added continua.
Let's see...
First one, my team wins - Dafydd narrowly wins against Sergio due to his sleeveless thing being somewhat more closed, but Nikki is showing far less that Constance - she has (half) a skirt! A much more covering top! Other random bits! And Constance has basically a black strapless bikini (no, I'm not considering the utterly transparent trousers as covering anything)
Second one... yeah, yours narrowly wins here. Nikki and Dafydd are pretty much exactly equal - seashells and merfolk tail. But Constance has sleeves and there's no gap between shirt and trousers, so she wins against Sergio by a small margin I guess.
Third one is interesting. Sergio and Nikki are more dressed than Dafydd, who is shirtless, but less than Constance who is in a full uniform.
So I dare say that on average the skin ratio in these three is equal. But! I haven't shown mine as almost naked centaurs, or stark naked humans hiding behind bushes! So if we take overalll piece against piece mine average less skin shown because those two really ruin your average.
... This is a silly discussion, isn't it?
I really appreciate that you took the time to check out my writing. And I'm glad you enjoyed it!