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I'd also add the proviso talked about by EPL and others: that prior to his return, he discuss what he has done to improve and lay out a plan of action for continued improvement with someone in the PPC.

Two years, and when the two years are up, a warning: if he's genuinely improved, he's welcome back. But if he returns with more of the same, the ban will be permanent.

I want to give people chances to learn and grow. I don't like calling for drastic measures. I just don't see any other way to keep the community safe. Two years to reflect, and then one last chance.

It sounds like there's an awful lot of consensus. We as a community aren't comfortable around SRPA, and nobody's expressed any hesitation on that front. The question that remains is duration.

There's clearly almost universal agreement that we're talking about years. There's also what feels like a shared sentiment that we'd be fine with significantly more than one - most of the times suggested are "at least" a year, and there's people suggesting it should be permanent, or effectively so.

As such, I'd like to suggest two years. A lot can happen in two years; people grow, situations change, and that's really what we want to see here: a change in situation. And... SRPA's hurt people here. I think we need more than a single year to heal.

Thoughts? Agreements? Disagreements?

That's such a kid's cartoon. Anime and live action are much better. Nothing happens, and not in the way moe shows do it.

((This might not be entirely in character because I was laughing so much while typing it out...))

I've always ( = maybe two years?) felt that the Mirror Universe in Trek, and by extension the Mirror Multiverse, isn't the place where good is evil and evil is good - it's the place where everyone kind of sucks. Their stories are broadly the same (hence Kirk and Picard both wind up as captains of the Enterprise), but their progress through them is the path their worst selves would take. It's the universe where people give in to their worst impulses, rather than trying to be better.

(If this makes you think that Warhammer 40K is an escaped Mirror Multiverse canon, well, I couldn't possibly comment... ^_~)

hS

That line is a theory (well, hypothesis) about why PPC/EPC/TCDA/etc agents actually have to spend time in the story. I mean, they can read the words on the screen and learn literally everything, so why do they need to go in there in the first place?

Hence, the hypothesis: agents have to make themselves part of the story to change it. In the same way that a long and detailed fanfic can alter the canon (at least according to the PPC... but this is how we get fanon, actually), a long and detailed 'story' - ie, a mission, a linking of event-lines - allows the agent to directly alter the badfic.

It is, of course, Only A Theory (probably out of Analytical Sciences), but it handily explains why some fics wind up being missioned twice: the initial mission wasn't entwined sufficiently for its effect to last. The destabilising effect is proportionate to both the scale of the intervention and its length; we can conjecture some examples:

-Normal PPC mission: duration = 3 (bulk of the story), scale = 3 (the Duty): effect = 3x3 = 9.

-MST: duration = 5 (full length), scale = 1 (just snark), 5x1 = 5.

-Lazy PPC mission: duration = 2, scale = 3, 2x3 = 6.

-Nuke it from orbit: duration = 1 (in and out), scale = 5 (bye-bye world), 1x5 = 5

Throw in the fact that too large a scale can ripple back to the canon proper, and you find the best result is a mid-scale intervention (eg, killing a Suvian), taken after as much of the fic as the agents can stomach.

Which is what we see. :)

But mostly, Morri was just technobabbling.

hS

Could you post the transcript of that, please? I'm curious about what his "very good at agreeing that he was in the wrong and apologizing" looks like.

You wrote a mirrorverse fic on a whim. With minimal planning.

Have a cookie.

((But holy moley, this is a lot. I barely know where to start. I love all the mirror canon titles you created, and the implications for how those stories are different from what we know. I love the general shift into an entirely different perspective, and the missioning of a goodfic to show that perspective off. On that note, am I reading this line right? "'Like, the only way to permanently destabilise a fictive spatio-temporal line is to entangle it with an EPC agent's personal event-line before you make any changes.'" Is this the opposite of how PPC agents have to keep hidden and not interact with canon? You're saying EPC agents actually have to get themselves involved with canon characters in order to finish their missions? That is just such a weirdly intrusive detail to include; it fits perfectly, both with their modus operandi, and their general egotism and self-importance.))

((I had to look up what the "Morrigan" was, but now that I have, I love that choice, too.))

((. . . I guess this is less a review and more just gushing about something I read. So maybe I got a little into character, after all?))

((—doctorlit, not really settled on his mirror personality yet))

I forgot to wear a lilac.

Ah well...

... I thought you said Magic School Bus, and was excited to see someone talking about a good canon for once.

Alas.

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*I assume you have installed a Tengwar font by this time.

In which Huinesoron ropes Morri into accompanying him into a Legendary Dullfic, and I go to any lengths to avoid the scene with the leeches, because ew.

EPC: DOGA: Don't Panic!

Please do read and review; there's not much point writing if you don't appreciate it.

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*I assume you have installed a Tengwar font by this time.

((I am so glad I didn't turn out this obnoxious - stop smirking! I'm pretty sure Mirror!me looks exactly like this, and to be honest I can see Blonde!Mirror!Kaitlyn as well.

'Lords of the Ring' has been my headcanon for a long time; someday I'll get round to writing the DAS Mirror Multiverse Atlas. ~hS))

I appreciate your taking the time to share some thoughts. I'm glad the pieces worked. :)

~Z

Nwo one should be bwooding!! Not when you could listen to stowowies about my oc!! She is the bwest!! Yuwur lives should revowolve awound me!!

I weally don't knowo howo to rwespwond to this...but...ive just been browosing Quotev, and sowomebody said that I do not wwite well!! Which is not twue!! My oc is awesome! And vewwy good and kind!! Why doesn't anyone like her? Characters are suppwosed to be pwerfect!! Why else owould you wwite?

(That physically hurt to type. I was faced with two options: be the Jean who never immigrated from China, or be Suethor!Betel. Since I can't imagine anyone wanting to read two block paragraphs of Chinese, I went with the latter option. shivers)

So do you watch his channel too?

I would be in favor of a ban lasting a minimum of one year.

Knowingly posting inappropriate content after being explicitly asked not to at the very least starts to cross the border from ignorance to maliciousness to me.

Gonna preface this by saying lately, I've not had good interactions on the discord, and am largely angry for various reasons, and that's probably putting bias on this. But hey, that's neither here nor there, so here are my thoughts.

SRPA's behavior has been longstanding, people have called him out for it, he is quick to apologize and delete posts, but there is no learning from these deleted posts. That doesn't bode well. That's it. A lack of learning and an incongruity with the community. It's just been escalated by the fact that he's made people uncomfortable, and I don't appreciate it when people who I consider to be my friends feel unpleasantness.

Ban until further notice, ie don't have a set end date in time. If he wants back, he can wait however long it takes for people to not care enough or prove that he's capable of learning.

• Helsinki, miffed

You mustn't run away from your problems altogether, of course, but sometimes it's good to step back and think~

Like watching Evangelion, or writing missions. Or coming up with new agents after killing some off~

((gods, balancing "obnoxiously perky" and "vaguely sinister" is tricky))

Prepare me a milk tea taro bubble!
Use full cream and sweeten it double!

IDK what's next, but it'll give me something to think about if I get bored at work tomorrow. ^_^

I like that first one of yours! ... Did "Beewoop!" come from Dr. Mike, by any chance?

~Neshomeh actually uses the smallest amount of sugar, because she's pretty sure you can get diabetes from full-sugar bubble tea just by looking at it for too long.

If everyone just listened to ME, everything would be perfect! Like me! The world is so simple when you look at it that way. :D

(( Mirror!Neshomeh doesn't need to sign her posts, because signalling accountability for your words is for chumps, so she never got into the habit. Prime!Neshomeh feels naked without putting something at the end, though. >.> ))