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I dare say the new way you used the Mirror was just perfect, as is the way you re-framed bits of the Philosopher's Stone plot to be used for a whole different plot. Good on you!

Thanks for the help! (gives poppy seed scone)

Good luck to HFA, I bet they really like fanbrat hair...

Lily's a woman of lots of secrets; she learnt to keep them close to her chest while in hiding and old habits definitely die hard. Doubly so when some of her secrets could be dangerous for Harry to know. I think she's the sort of person who thinks the fewer people know about this thing, the more control she has over it. I mean, what with all the prying eyes and gossips in this world, a well-kept secret is worth its weight in gold!

And I suspect she knows if she actually indulged Harry and sat him down for a family history, he'd fall asleep before she even got through his paternal grandparents. As much as Harry insists he wants there to be no secrets between them, I don't think he'd actually be content if he couldn't figure stuff out for himself sometimes.

Lily knows it's Peter, because Severina told her when she helped Lily escape. Other people may not know. But whether or not Sirius is involved in this........you'll have to wait and see. And Gaunt had actually just faced some consequences at this time; the Potters were a retaliation, remember? ;)

Yeah, I reckoned Harry had a more complex wish here than just to know his family. He wants to know his dad, sure, but he also wants to not have to choose between his worlds, and not have the pressure of being his father's heir. Poor kid.

Much as I hated seeing Harry fighting with Lily, I can understand his frustration. But I also understand Lily not really being able to infodump everything onto him at once. There's like, a whole fantasy setting's worth of world-building in his family history, complete with plot twists! :P Speaking of which, I'm glad Sirius didn't get blamed for James's murder in this timeline, and that Peter was found out immediately . . . But oh. Mr. Gaunt may just be a politician in this timeline, but he's an eeeeeeevil politician! so a politician then I'm guessing that even though Lily knows Gaunt is the one who sent the order, that's probably not common knowledge to the overall public, since otherwise. Uh. Otherwise a government official would be. Would be, um. Facing no consequences. For a crime he committed. That everyone, uh. Knows about. Because that never. Never happens. In real life. Yeeeeaaaah.

Welp.

Anyway, glad your changes to the Erised scene were able to bring Harry and Lily back together a bit! And I like your modification to Harry's wish, as well. It's very appropriate, in this weird culture, to want to remove the cultural roadblocks between people and let everyone hang out together. : )

Oh, uh, you spelled Quirrell's first name wrong in a couple spots. It is a very weird name, even for this universe, and I definitely had to look it up, myself! So, it's "Quirinus," but you've got:
“—will make this very simple for you, Qurinius,”
and
“I’ll be keeping an eye on you, Quirinius,”

—doctorlit is caught up on the Board for the first time in three weeks!

...I just didn’t quite have the time to do it myself; was unsure which user page to add to, and thought that an admin could get rid of all those unnecessary templates.

—Ls, your friendly neighborhood spam-spotter

I will note that all typos have been corrected on my end.

—Ls

My guide tells me if the first letters in the second word or the last letters of the first word in a compound are CH, they become H.

But if the first letter in the second word is H, it becomes CH after a vowel, hence lacha + hend = lachenn.

None of my first words end in a vowel, though, so I only ran into a medial CH with loeg mutating to loech (and ang -> anch, whoops) before the H. And obviously we couldn't end up with Loechhenn (or Anchhenn), so dropping an H just makes sense. And I agree with dropping it in Aellen, too; much nicer, IMO. And I guess you didn't retain the double-N in that case because it would be a bit much after a double-L?

I did wonder if ý might actually shorten to u, giving Hinguron or Henguron? Sindarin y is pronounced a bit like German ü, right?

~Neshomeh

(Which, incidentally, does not require administrative powers to do!)

—doctorlit, Wiki admin

Hey, good dialogue here! Having two established characters with very different personalities, plus one newcomer, made for some fun interactions. I especially liked the part where Carlisle tried to say Billy Simpson didn't work in Potterverse, then Fáelán pointed out how subjective that could feel, based on the setting. It's nice to see different perspectives clash! I hope Émilie is picking up some learning, in spite of her wandering concentration and spider-based distractions . . .

Two typos, one sentence after the other!
However, over plates of mercifully decadent Potterverse food prepared by the House-elves, the agent soon forgot whatever was bothering them and began to have a pleasant little chat.

“These pork chops are good,” Émilie said. “The lemon juice really accentuates the umami notes.

"Agent" should be "agents" to match the "them" pronoun after. And Émilie's quotation marks never got closed.

—doctorlit, ready to start his final nap of the weekend

I don't think you can just create Xh digraphs like that. "hen" mutates to "chen" as the second element in a compound, and Ael+chen =/= Aelhen(n).

Some examples indicate that a lot of the time, h simply stays as h even in compounds; I don't think the Sindar liked medial Ch very much! But LH is a different phoneme (it's actually Welsh LL), so I think your names would go:

Aellen & Loechen

Anchenn

... well, Hingýron, but that looks wrong, so I would prefer Hingeron or Hengiron.

A lot of this is just personal "feel" for how the language should look/sound, so take it with a gallon of salt. Apparently I get quite mystical about Sindarin these days.

hS

On the wiki, someone kept uploaded "Maeve Hightower"-related spam yesterday. Admins, please help.

It could be Quesse-sanga-iel, "Feather-pressure-maid" ("Featherweight"?), or possibly Quesse-sangie-el "Feather-Necessity-elf", or even Quesse-anga-iel "Feather-iron-maiden". None of those are great. ^_^ Eru-lasse is a hugely taboo way of saying "leaf of The One". I think it's all straight Quenya.

If the agents were feeling nice, they could keep (and translate) an element of her original name. There's no Sindarin form of "feather", but "wing" might serve; so perhaps something like Raw+(G)wath = Rawath/Rowath, "wing-shadow"? Tin + lais = Tillais, "sparkling leaves" is quite nice too. Nim + ang + iel = Nimangiel "White iron maiden" is doable, but probably a bit long, and the alternate form "Nimangel" has, uh, connotations.

Cowne is interesting, because it's clearly a tidier form of "Conwe", and probably means "Chief". But it's weird because it would be a Sindarin name which looks exactly like an early, Cuivienen-era Quenya name! If I were a snarky PPC agent, I might call her Glorechil, "golden follower" - she ain't no chief.

Or just call her Idril. Haldir and Rumil are doing the same thing, and Celeborn's named after a flippin' tree.

hS

Her original name is Quessangіel Erulasse, which sounds rather silly (and appears to be a weird mashup of Quenya and Sindarin). She, along with another elleth named Cowne Idril (ain't even commenting on this one but for real tho, why is she named after Turgon's daughter?; she shows up after the point I end the mission, though this may change. In case I change my mind, she is blonde with either grey or dark eyes) are loyal yes-man handmaidens (rather like a succulent little peach we know somewhere…) to the Sue. Quessangіel, Cowne and the Sue (who is yet another Celebrían replacer, but it's a story for another time) all tag along with the Fellowship, so we have on our hands not a Tenth, but a Tenth, Eleventh and Twelfth Walkers situation.

P.S: The fic was the first in the LotR section in the unclaimed list, and was a returned fic. If the original claimer wishes to claim it again, disregard everything above this addendum.

P.P.S: My memories of LotR is kind of rusty, but the fic has Lórien suddenly attacked by orcs when the Fellowship stop there. I don't remember such event happening in the books, and I haven't seen the movies.

I didn't think you'd be awake yet. ... And maybe you weren't when I started my post. I shouldn't be awake still. Whoops. >.>

~Neshomeh

Presuming she has enough of one to make her worth recruiting rather than letting her assimilate as a random background character. Basic appearance isn't much to go on.

Still, I had a poke through a Sindarin dictionary for possibilities suggesting dark eyes, which I guess might be moderately unusual among Sylvan and Sindar elves. Following the example of lachenn (flame-eyed) and combining with the term hend (plural hind) for eye(s):

• with ael or loeg (pool/lake) - Aelhenn or Loechenn
• with ang (iron) - Anghenn
• with cýron (new moon) - Hingýron

For the last one I put the "eyes" element first (and pluralized it) because it just works better that way, IMO, but you can always switch the order of elements in a name (always following the rules). That one happens to be my favorite, though. "Eyes of the new moon," very poetic!

But, hS is really the expert around here, so wait and see what he has to say before you make up your mind. ^_^

~Neshomeh just tries for fun.

So: Lorien elf means she will be named in Sindarin, which is a relief; if she was from Mirkwood there's a good chance her name would be in the poorly-known Silvan tongue.

I can think of five named, non-ruling Lorien elves to go off: Haldir, Rumil, Orophin, Nimrodel, and Mithrellas. The first three are brothers; interestingly, Rumil is named after a Valinorean sage, while Haldir is named after a mortal chieftain of the Haladin. Unless she's explicitly a sister of those three, it's probably best to avoid reused names.

Nimrodel means "White-Cave-Lady"; Mithrellas could mean "grey-leaf". A colour-forest feature name would be appropriate. I would avoid Mith- (white) , Morn- (black), and Celeb- (silver), but Nim- (white), Gwath- (shaded), Tin- (sparkling, like stars), or even the likes of Luin- (blue), Baran- (brown), Russ- (copper), Carn- (red)... any of those strike your fancy? If the agents are naming her, they might pick a description for where they first met her, or a situation they saw her in; if you suggest a few possibilities in English I can see what I can do.

hS

This is Suedom at its lightest. It gets... very dark. And the OOCness... I think partly is them kind of distorting the PPC to fit the story, but it could also very much be that a lot of things weren't settled quite yet. This is very early PPC, recall.

Regarding Suedom as a critique of the PPC... I know that's been said, but I don't know if that makes sense. Suedom starts in 2002. The PPC barely exists, and the Original Constitution, written in large part by Saphie, hasn't even been written yet (at least, I assume The Board would have a link to the Constitution at this point if it did, and hS's early snapshot of the board from a month after this doesn't, yet).

Suedom was inverting the sue-hunting Thing, and I can totally believe that there was a message, or writing it came out of or evolved into a dissatisfaction or discomfort with the way the PPC works, but the kind of idea of "we were there in their midst criticizing them and they didn't even know it" (which was the implication that post gave off when I read it) just... you can't really be a subversive infiltrator of a community which you yourself are currently instrumental in the process of constructing.

I'm planning to rescue/recruit a female Tolkien elf from a badfic I plan to mission, but I don't know how to rename her; I thus call on elvish-aware Boarders to help me out. The only thing to keep in mind about her is that she has dark hair and dark eyes, going of the actress photo used to represent her, and is from Lórien.

Where Inasuke gets frustrated with Kaguya giving Momoka orders, and tries to stand up for her, only for Momoka to take Kaguya's side. I interpreted that as jealousy, but maybe he really does just dislike the master-servant relationship between them?

—doctorlit, possibly misreading the situation

Heh, that title is pretty literal, isn't it? Going in, I assumed it was more a metaphor for Suvian threats, but I see I was getting way ahead of myself! Anyway, my comments here will be fairly stream-of-consciousness, and recorded in the order I came up with them as I was reading.

Miss Cam owns evil? And body slams? Probably just some OFUM jokes I'm not getting . . . Okay, that "prologue" portion set in the 1970s is extremely intriguing. Someone seems to have attacked a fan over something they imagined? I wonder who the bolded-font voice is. (Obviously, no one spoil anything, please, I just organize my thoughts in the form of questions. Some of my questions about Lost never even got answered, lol.) Also . . . is that a knock against Jerry Falwell Jr? The name's different, of course, and Jr. would have been only ten in 1972, so maybe it's just a coincidence . . .

Boy, the tone of this really is a lot more serious than I anticipated! I'm so used to the surreal humor of the Original Series and a lot of other early spin-offs, and things just feeling a bit wacky and unhinged. But starting Suedom off in the real world, with lots of unpleasant interactions and a jarring amount of potty language, is a perfect contrast with the "imagination world" that Kate and Kira arrive in later, and the contrast serves to make that sequence even more wonderful. I love everything about that scene, from the teens meeting each other for the first time, to the pure happiness and freedom they find in discovering how unlimited things are, to the hilarious arrival of Odorf and his aloof line delivery. I'm definitely not going to headcanon those different brain regions as being canon to the PPC, as declaring that fan authors have different physiology from other humans is getting way into problematic territory.

Okay, bit of a tangent, but: Kate sings a song from the Avenue Q soundtrack, but that play didn't premiere until 2003, while these first two entries of Suedom are from 2002. Maybe some of the play's songs had been previewed before the official release? Or maybe that song title got edited in after the fact, sometime before Huinesoron made his GDoc backup?

I'm intrigued with what's going on with Rincewind! I was initially thinking that naming the dragon Rincewind had actually forced the real Rincewind to occupy its body (haven't read Discworld, so I don't know how well the dialogue or mannerisms match), but the narration sometimes uses female pronouns for the dragon, and she seems to recognize Middle-earth, so that doesn't quite make sense. And, hm. Jay and Acacia (if that is them) tried to shoot down the dragons without charging first. Not very in character, not in line with HQ guidelines, plus they could have easily read the Words to realize Kira and Kate weren't part of the fanfic they're there to investigate. Not a great representation of the PPC! Though I seem to recall . . . was it a LiveJournal post, or a visit to the Board . . . anyway, somewhere one of the authors mentioned that they were using Suedom to critique the PPC and other Sue hunting stories, so I guess that was intentional, though it doesn't make for a great critique if you're misrepresenting the subject!

The end to this chapter is also intriguing. Is Bilbo acting that way towards them because they have they actually become Suvian? Or is the actual Suvian that was affecting Middle-earth before their arrival just warping his character enough that he can't tell the difference? And what outside influence drew the ladies to this canon in the first place? Was it something Suvian, or Morgtoh whispering from the Void trying to find a way to destabilize canon enough to slip back into reality? And what does any of this have to do with the girl who disappeared in 1972? Yeah, I'm pretty stoked to read more!

—doctorlit will pass on that turkey baster; he doesn't really cook

Besides, where did I write Ina as jealous of Guya in the Halloween interlude? (is puzzled)

Aw, it was fun seeing Inasuke and Momoka getting along so nicely, before Inasuke started getting jealous of Kaguya! And I'm amused by the idea of Inasuke really, really hoping for a mini of a particular someone . . . and hoping . . . and hoping . . . but the right one never gets misspelled! Alas! And yeah, seeing fic that so blatantly misses the main message of the canon that it ultimately comes to subvert it can be quite frustrating.

—doctorlit is finally getting back on track on the Board, after an absolute hell week!

I was afraid I had bitten off more than I could chew with a lot of different threads, and I wasn't sure how it was all going to fit together... I am so glad everyone is happy with their agents' cameos! It was my biggest fear.

Crows are really neat. =) Mellon would be about the same level of intelligence as Gadrik; it's a shame they didn't get to interract more come to think of it. (It is very likely though that Gall insisted on a quick trip to Ankh-Morpork after they picked him up to extend family vacation a little longer, so they might have bonded.)

Thank you for taking the time to write such a glowing review! It really made my day. <3

/Ekwy

News article link for convenience, since it's impossible to select within the spoiler: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34775814

If it helps, this is the first I can remember hearing of something like this in 20 years as a PPCer. Most people don't have the time, money, or sheer twistedness to actually hunt someone down for the sake of words, however negative. {= /

~Neshomeh