Evil, Grammar Nazi oppressors, who silence all dissent with our badfic parodies!
I think I'll quote Silvormoon here:
There is an assumption that because this is informal writing, not only should it not be required to be good, but that we should like it and praise it anyway. It's as if, the moment we enter the realms of fanfiction, we've stumbled into a world where bad writing is considered a virtue and should be defended, while good writing is stuffy and snobbish and difficult, and therefore should be considered suspect at the best of times and ridiculous at worst.
There is this vaguely formed but persistent idea that "This story is good because I wrote it and posted it, and I should get recognition and praise for it." Somehow, the virtue of the story has been redefined while the rest of the rational world wasn't looking. The story is not good because it was technically superior, or because it has engaging characters or a clever plot or because it engages our emotions. No. All the story requires to be good is that this person bothered to sit in front of a computer for a few minutes and bang on a keyboard for a while, and we ought to praise them simply for letting the story - such as it is - exist. My theory is that this is symptomatic of this new idea that children's self-esteems should be bolstered regularly by telling them everything they do is wonderful just because they gave it a try. It allows people to come away with an idea that they should be praised for everything they do - indeed, that the rest of us have a moral obligation to do so. Just watch. Go find yourself a substandard fic, and review it telling them everything they did wrong and request that they make an effort to fix it. Four times out of five, you will get back a nasty response - by email, author's note, or carrier pigeon - telling you that YOU are a mean, cruel person for not liking their fic, and if you didn't like it then it's ALL YOUR FAULT for being so callous and stupid.
This, of course, is rather like telling the person in your glue-stick house that the roof came crashing down on their head because they weren't smart enough to bother to prop it up.
*whispers* Better keep it down, guys. We don't want to rile the academics!
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Well, it wouldn't be half as fun if we weren't oppressors! by
on 2009-03-26 10:39:00 UTC
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Re: If only.... by
on 2009-03-26 07:42:00 UTC
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And let's not get started on abrasive Tsundere!Sues who still play the damsel-in-distress role.
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Re: Something I think we can all agree upon. by
on 2009-03-26 07:40:00 UTC
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I especially like the dismissal of the concept of standards in fan fiction as "authoritarian," and the presumption that all Mary Sues are parody characters. (While the trope-naming Lieutenant Mary Sue herself was a parody, I highly doubt that Jenna Silverblade was.)
How much do you want to bet that "authoritarian" is a euphemistic Godwin here?
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Dear me... by
on 2009-03-26 07:03:00 UTC
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Well, at least they didn't mangle Zuko too much, but Mai and Azula... WEESHT they're OOC. It's quite annoying when people use amnesia as an excuse to completely reverse a character's personality. And Toph fighting in a dress like THAT.
I understand this person's hatred for Mai, though. At first, I HATED Maiko because it was just completely out of nowhere and creepy, but when Mai saved their bacon in The Boiling Rock Pt. 2 (with that killer awesome line, 'What are you doing?' 'Saving the jerk who dumped me.'), I thought, "Well... OKAY... I...GUESS I'm okay with it..." I was grudgingly supportive, more due to my undying loyalty to the canon than anything else, until the last episode with that scene between Zuko and Mai, where I gave in and squeed at the fluff.
I actually had an idea for an Avatar fic with elements of both Maiko AND Zutara, but the former is the OTP whereas the latter is a one-night stand that both of them regret with every fiber of their being.
... What did that have to do with anything? Crap, I was rambling again. Apologies.
Please kill that comic. Every other panel is the same... brain hurts.
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Well, it can only be legendary if everyone's heard of it ... by
on 2009-03-26 06:54:00 UTC
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... although the length of this thread is beginning to make it look like a fair number of people have.
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Wow... just... wow... by
on 2009-03-26 06:53:00 UTC
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My brain just broke. I can't say for sure, since I didn't see the original fic, but this seems worthy of Legendary Status.
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Despite being a dino nut, by
on 2009-03-26 06:51:00 UTC
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I didn't see the movie or read the book until last year or so. I remember trying to convince my friends that no, velociraptors were *not* six/eight/whatever feet tall, they were about the size of a collie. *laughs*
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That's...special. by
on 2009-03-26 06:12:00 UTC
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You know, considering that a majority of agents work in pairs written by the same author, unless both are essentially the same character, about half of all agents at most could be self inserts. Or maybe I just need to go to sleep now.
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*What?* by
on 2009-03-26 06:07:00 UTC
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Okay, I just skimmed the first eight or ten posts and... Well, I'm wondering about how they can strip without wearing clothing in the first place; maybe it would have been better to just call them pole dancers? Oh, and why can't people capitalize the beginnings of sentences? It really isn't that hard.
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*snort* (nm) by
on 2009-03-26 05:57:00 UTC
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Indeed. Once something/someone reaches a certain age... by
on 2009-03-26 05:41:00 UTC
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... they become Indisputible Primary Sources, regardless of whether or not we agree with them. Case points: Plato, Shakespeare, the Bible... could add the Kama Sutra, if you wish...
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Or contempt for the human race. (nm) by
on 2009-03-26 05:35:00 UTC
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My new lair by
on 2009-03-26 05:35:00 UTC
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http://rc6664.webs.com/
I made the website where I'll be posting the missions and such. Tomorrow it will be exactly one month since I joined up. I posted a little intro story thing for my agents.
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I had a little scene... by
on 2009-03-26 05:26:00 UTC
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...planned out in my head around Christmastime. It involved one of my DMSE&R scientists, alcohol, and mistletoe.
You see, Lori Starrett was very tipsy and she mistook her colleague for Legolas. Being a Legolas fangirl...well, things got pretty out of hand.
Her husband took photos. :P
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*celebrates* Break out the chocolate! (nm) by
on 2009-03-26 05:24:00 UTC
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I did. Very fast. Am good at tongue-twisters ;p (nm) by
on 2009-03-26 05:24:00 UTC
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To by quite honest... by
on 2009-03-26 05:21:00 UTC
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My agent(s) seem to do whatever they please anyway; Agent Sedri is in DMS, but just did a Wicked mission that involved no 'Sues at all, just a replacement character, and I justified it by saying there aren't that many agents who do Wickedverse. *shrug* I don't think the Flowers much care who does what, so long as things get done... the Finance people might lynch me, though. ;)
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Huh. I'd never heard of that. by
on 2009-03-26 02:43:00 UTC
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I thought it'd be the same thing as the Department of Floaters, by the name, but once the page loaded it seemed odd. I've never heard of it, but it seems kind of interesting.
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Nobody said anything about weirdness. (nm) by
on 2009-03-26 02:26:00 UTC
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Yay for Evil Overlords being Overthrown by
on 2009-03-26 02:14:00 UTC
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Say that 5x fast.
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Oh, we LOVE him. (nm) by
on 2009-03-26 02:09:00 UTC
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Re: He's the compy guy by
on 2009-03-26 02:08:00 UTC
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Ah, so we like that guy then, right?
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He's the compy guy by
on 2009-03-26 02:06:00 UTC
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the one who basically said 'hey guys, look, don't you think theropods and birds are, like, totally closely related?' He also discovered Deinonychus and made a decent case for warm-blooded dinosaurs.
Deinonychus ... well, how I've always said it is 'Dye-non-eye-kus'. I may be wrong. Wikipedia will probably have a phonetic thingy for it, but I can't read the phonetic alphabet, so you're on your own there :)