Decided to remove all my prompts as well as my samples. Maybe this wasn't meant to be. After I read your post script, I decided I'll not bother trying to to attempt another permission request. I wonder if I should just start my own series and organization. Still like to learn from you though.
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Oh well, mistakes were made. by
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Taking a quick look via the search function... by
on 2021-09-27 12:06:08 UTC
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between "spike1970" and "Spike 1970" you seem to have posted:
- 7 times in 2018.
- 26 in 2019, with 7 of those being identical "Happy cake day" messages. All the "Spike 1970" posts are from here.
- 4 times in 2020, two being cake days.
- 7 times in 2021, of which three are on this thread.
As you've clarified you're not on the Discord, I think you can see how this isn't something we'd call active.
Taking a very quick look over your samples, I can see a tense shift in the first two lines of #1, enough ellipses to drown a Suvian in across the whole of #1, and the fact that in #2 you seem to believe the DIA is the same as the Department of Intelligence. Oh, you also have your agent directly attack a thankfully-hypothetical author with the line "that fart-huffing stuthor [...] how sick was that guy?"
The above is absolutely not a full discussion of the samples, but yeah, even without the lack of activity I'd have to say Permission Denied at the moment.
hS
PS: Why are we talking about activity? Because almost 20 years in, the PPC isn't just a setting - it's a community and a shared universe, and we try very hard to keep all the stories in it broadly consistent with each other. If someone's going to have freedom to add whatever they like to that, we want to know them well enough to be confident that they won't add things that break it for everyone. We're not just giving you permission to borrow the setting - we're giving you the keys to the whole clubhouse. ~hS
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Hi Ix! by
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It's good to hear from you - I was starting to worry I might be toe-stepping by making Ave such a big part of this. (But she kind of has to be, because she is one of the biggest names in the PPC, like it or not.)
I've actually just been working up a clearer/more detailed outline of AVIATOR (the first one), which you've given me a perfect opportunity to share here:
2. Aviator
We open in a hallway in PPC HQ. There is a thrumming noise, and then a rather battered red TARDIS materialises in a niche. The doors open, and Rina Dives steps out, followed by the Luxray Zeb. They've just completed a mission, and are quite happy to be back in HQ for some downtime.
They spend the first chunk of the movie in HQ - returning books to the Canon Library, handing in their reports to the yet-unseen Officials, grabbing a bite to eat in the Cafeteria before heading to Rudi's. The audience comes to understand that Rina is something of a maverick, while Zeb is thoroughly strait-laced. Eventually Rina gets a [beeep] on her communicator, and they return to their TARDIS for a mission.
The mission is a Bad Slash story, with a wildly OOC Harry Potter and Severus Snape, loosely based on "Little Miss Mary". Naturally there is nothing explicit in this family film, but it is definitely a slashfic, not a Sue. We re-establish the D.O.R.K.S., having Rina use it to become a wizard and use a wand - because, as she points out, this thing doesn't just disguise you, it actually turns you into what you set it to.
In the finale, Rina and Zeb exorcise Snape - only for Harry to absolutely flip out and hit them with a massive blast of fire. Rina shoves Zeb to safety and takes the full force of the blast herself. Zeb retaliates with enough lightning to knock the Wraith right out of Harry's body, then rushes to his partner. She is dying, and she says she's only glad she could save him from the same fate.
But Zeb doesn't let her go. Taking the D.O.R.K.S., he carefully programs it, then points it at Rina. She shimmers, but doesn't change, and as she falls still the audience think Zeb failed - until Rina practically explodes with massive flares of golden light.
The TARDIS doors open, and from inside comes the ominous peal of the cloister bell. Rina's regeneration glow begins to fade, and we catch our first glimpse of her new form - and then there is a bright flash of light, and both she and the TARDIS are gone, leaving Zeb alone as the badfic fades out.
Zeb returns to HQ. He delivers his report Upstairs in a listless fashion, then stumbles blindly down the corridors towards Rudi's. As he passes the Fountain of Bleepka, he hears the rising sound of a TARDIS materialising. Right in front of him, the freshly-repainted red TARDIS materialises. The doors open, and out stumbles Rina, in a black bomber jacket and aviator goggles.
"Hi, Zeb," she says, staggering. "Been a long time." And she passes out.
Post-credits: Somewhere else - a fractured space with pieces of several Word Worlds in it - a figure in a shrouding white robe holds a tetrahedron of black crystal. In it, they watch a replay of Harry's outburst and Rina's regeneration.
"That didn't go so well," they say, in a voice that's impossible to define as male or female. "I'll have to go back to more traditional methods."
In the credits, the unknown figure is listed as Mysterious Somebody.
I still have no solid ideas for Aviator 2, however. In the interests of queerifying "Continuity Council", possibly combine Ellie being born with a regeneration into Male Ave, and the introduction of the Detective? I don't know, it's hard, it doesn't shape out into a coherent plot in my head. Any ideas you have for What Ave Did Next will be greatly appreciated - essentially it just has to slot in between her return from Gallifrey and... well, the discussion of what happened on Gallifrey, which comes in Phase 3.
I think I'm just going to assume everyone has had a thing with Jacques - it's probably his running joke. We're kind of turning Jacques into pseudo-Lux for the PPCCUU, aren't we? I'm fine with that. :D
(Current notes for PPC4: Rambling Band has her as one of the Nine Companions who make it through, working with Gaspard to locate Jay. Zeb doesn't make it through, but there is a distinct possibility that the Detective is raising Ellie with his particularly colourful dog somewhere in what I'm trying very hard not to refer to as Pleasantville. Knowing Ave, there will be angst when she finds this out.)
hS
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I've been reading these, I promise! by
on 2021-09-27 10:58:05 UTC
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Life's just been a bit hectic with the move back into the UK (hi, hS!) but I've been thoroughly tickled to see your ideas for a PPCCUU.
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"Makes-Things!" gasps Gaspard.
I started giggling very much at this line in particular.
Also, WRT needing more queer romances? Third Aviator might be female, but fourth is definitely not, and he and the Detective will be in a much healthier place at that point as an added bonus. :P Zeb was also involved with Jacques the last time I checked in, though admittedly it has been some time since Zing and I discussed where that was going, haha.
It's been lovely seeing these posts and I might have to make a contribution myself if I can find the headspace to do so.
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Sigh... by
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Shouldn't be surprised, guess I just wasn't active enough. Probably should've talked more then. Had to try at least. Oh well. Guess I'll try to be more active and maybe try again in a couple months. I'll work on my other fanfics in the meantime, Get a couple more chapters out...
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So... by
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You made your account a few years ago, but haven't been active until you started posting last month, or...?
The thing is, I can't connect the name "Spike" (whether it's capitalized or not) with anything in my memory. And if that's the case with all the PGs, it's going to be a "Permission Denied," because we like to know to whom we're giving keys to the sandbox. Make sense?
~Neshomeh
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An AI wrote this? by
on 2021-09-26 23:11:04 UTC
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That... is... AMAZTING
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Oh Sorry 'bout that, Fixed the links so I hope this works. by
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Well I did start out as 'spike1970' back in '18. Guess at some point I started addressing myself as 'Spike 1970', then I went back to using my old handle. My bad if it caused some confusion. It wasn't intentional, just a typing mistake on my end. What else... You wondered if I'm active on the Discord Chat. To be honest no, matter of fact I only just registered there(think I need an invite or something to yak with you guys there). I prefer to use the posting board anyway.
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Did you use a different screen name at some point? by
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In response to your earlier post, both hS and Cicada noted that they don't recognize this one; neither do I. I can see by your account number that you signed up a while ago, but I can't say I know you. As hS also noted, the "do we know you?" standard is a criterion for Permission.
Also, FYI, I clicked the links to see if I could divine any clues to your identity from your agents, and the links don't work; I get an "Access Denied" message on all three. You need to set your access permissions to "anyone with the link" next time.
~Neshomeh
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Permission Prompts by
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I submit, for your approval, The following prompts:
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PPCCUU Phase 4: Canon Protection Initiative by
on 2021-09-26 10:52:27 UTC
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Let's backtrack a little: throughout Phase 3, Jay and Acacia have been acting as the SO's lieutenants. They have been Not Happy the whole time: initially Jay was upset that Upstairs didn't believe in the multiversal collisions, and later Acacia started to get royally ticked off that the Flowers were adopting technical 'solutions' that just hide the problem away and ignore it, rather than going to the source.
PPC 3: BLACKOUT was a huge "told you so" moment for both of them. Having been directly affected by Jaycacia's initial use of the Key to Canon, they are among the most desperate to get it back in the second half. When the team finally recover the Key, it's Acacia who picks it up--
-- and Jay has about half a second to realise what's about to happen, and to grab for her partner's arm, before Acacia hurls the Key to the floor and smashes it into splinters.
BLACKOUT's post-credits scene has nothing to do with the Legendary (the agents probably dealt with her right before getting the Key). It's Jay, sitting in a coffee shop, blinking as if she's just woken up from a dream.
16. WORLD WITHOUT AUTHORS
The multiverse is gone, destroyed with Acacia's smash. Sergio Turbo is lost in a hybrid world. In a loose adaptation of the WWA so far, he finds Corolla and his old strike team, discovers Nikki has been pressganged into flying for the enemy, rescues her, and has to fend off a final huge attack from said enemy. There's lots of the usual character drama, and alternate versions of people he knows/knew floating around.
Right before the final battle, Corolla reveals she's been working on a way to restore the multiverse. She believes she can do it if she gets a splinter of the Key to Canon - and wouldn't you know it, there's a piece in the heart of the enemy mothership.
The finale is a air battle-slash-infiltration mission. In the end, Sergio and whoever else goes with him get the splinter, plug it into Corolla's machine - and there is a flash of blue light.
Post-credits: Acacia is walking through a collonade, perhaps in a museum. She pauses, reaches out to touch one of them, and frowns slightly.
17. GALLIFREY IMMINENT
The multiverse is under control. Morgan, a member of the Continuity Council, has been proclaimed Lady President of Gallifrey, and has given the Time Lords the PPC. Every timeline, every canon, every alternate is now ruled from the Citadel.
Morgan's former colleagues are mostly not happy with this. Some of them are on her Council, sure, but others - including our protagonists, Ave and the Agent - are in active rebellion. Evading her Castellans, they have to gather the most stubborn canon characters and ex-PPC agents to save the multiverse: they need to get hold of the splinter of the Key to Canon which Morgan has locked away, and merge it with the Gallifreyan Matrix.
Naturally, they succeed. Morgan tells them that they don't know what they're doing, that even if they change reality they could end up with something even worse, but they do it anyway. There is a flash of blue light.
Post-credits: Jay is writing hesitantly on a sheet of notepaper. Anyone able to read her crabbed handwriting might be able to make out familiar words: "It's happened again. Someone's mucking with the plot continuum."
She stops, stares at the page for a moment, then sighs and crumples it up.
18. CATASTROPHE THEORY
The PPC is losing its civil war. The rogue departments and their Suvian allies (of convenience) have nearly overwhelmed the last defenders. General Gaspard and his team have to enact their most ludicriously reckless, last-ditch plan: they're going to time-travel back to various points in the war, using their own temporal wake and echoes to reconstruct a splinter of the Key to Canon. By running a time loop through the splinter itself, they hope to wipe everything inside the loop from potentiality, preventing their timeline from ever coming to pass.
Naturally, this doesn't come without risks. Even at the last moment, they're concerned about what shape the PPC will take instead. "But it can't be worse than this," Gaspard says as they activate the machine.
There is a flash of blue light.
Post-credits: Acacia is standing in a kitchen, chopping vegetables. She begins to play with the knife, tossing it from hand to hand, then up and over, juggling it like, well, an expert assassin.
Realising what she's doing, she stops, stares at the blade - and then resumes chopping the veg.
19. HOUSE OF RHODES
The PPC is sundered. They had a civil war, which dialogue establishes was just a relatively small contingent of disgruntled agents with no Suvian involvement, and at the end the plothole generators which held HQ together were smashed. The departments have all gone their separate ways, spreading out across the multiverse.
Dafydd and Constance don't like this one bit. With a team of similarly nostalgic agents, they're going to sneak back into the House of Rhodes, the remnants of the old HQ. Due to Dafydd's habit of collecting shinies, they have a splinter of the Key to Canon, and they're basically going to stab it into the generators in the hopes that it'll fix them.
They probably wind up fighting (symbolically) their own children on this, who are generally quite happy with the sundered PPC. But in the end, they make it to the generators and do the stabby thing - and, you guessed it, there is a flash of blue light.
Post-credits: Jay looks up as a blue light flashes outside the coffee shop window. It's a police car, racing past to some disturbance. She shrugs and goes back to her coffee.
20. PROTECTORS OF THE PLOT CONTINUUM 4: RAMBLING BAND
(I'm sorry. I had to.)
Up until now, it's been implied - though not stated - that the Phase 4 films come in sequence. Corolla's machine caused Morgan's takeover timeline, the breaking of which caused the civil war, etc. That's wrong, though, as we find out immediately when there is a flash of blue light, and representatives from all the last 4 movies appear in a blue bubble floating in the void.
Dafydd, Ave, and Gaspard have to be there, as the protagonists from Phase 1. Sergio is as well, because although he's a latecomer, he headlined WWA. We'll want to bring in supporting characters too, but not overly many.
And there's one other person present, sitting against the side of the bubble and looking very unimpressed. "You took your time," he says.
"Makes-Things!" gasps Gaspard. "But -- you died when the Legendary attacked!"
Makes-Things sighs in exasperation. "Why does everyone always assume I'm dead?!"
Exposition time. When the Legendary took DoSAT and used the Key to Canon, Makes-Things hid himself in a null-space bubble. When the Key exploded, it splintered all of reality; the bubble was the only thing unaffected. Makes-Things has been waiting patiently for someone to come and find him, and now four teams come along at once.
Ave (or the Agent) points out that they all have pieces of the Key with them: surely now they can combine them to rebuild reality as it should be? No, says Makes-Things, the splinters can't do that, but they can take them to where they need to be.
"When the Key was broken," he says, "there were two people touching it: Jay Thorntree and Acacia Byrd. They are the Key now. You have to bring them together."
Combined, the splinters will be drawn to the bulk of the Key's power, in J&A. "Be careful," M-T says, "I don't know what you'll find there." The team press the pieces together, there is a flash of blue light...
... and they wind up in a perfectly ordinary, World One neighbourhood.
What they discover is that this is a universe with no contact with the multiverse. There are people they know here, but they're just... people, living ordinary lives. The only people with unusual powers are our team (which will make it hilarious if Zeb is one of them - "what a funny-looking dog").
Based on Makes-Things' explanation, they think they just have to get Jay and Acacia into physical contact. They find that Jay is a struggling author, and Acacia is... I don't know, something hilariously apt and bland. Through Hijinks, they finally get them to shake hands.
Nothing happens. Because as Jenni (who may be either a member of the team, or an 'ordinary' person who they've somehow drafted) points out, there are multiple meanings of 'together'.
Now the team switch to straight-up matchmaking. Naturally, they fail - but their failure is so comical that Jay and Acacia end up laughing together over it, and bonding over it. They do come together - not as lovers, but as friends.
One last time: there is a flash of blue light...
... and Jay leans back from her console, indicating a flashing red light.
"It's happened again. Someone's mucking with the plot continuum."
Acacia sighs. "Exactly what is so wrong with the canon that everyone wants to break it? Which world?"
"Lord of the Rings," Jay says, wincing. "The massacre of Tolkien continues. We have... a Mary Sue."
Post-credits: Probably just something funny from Rambling Band, I don't know. This is the last film, at least under my tenure as creative director. If the PPCCUU continues, it does so in different hands.
I didn't mean to do more than one set of posters... :-/ This is the sort of idea that really, really grabs me, apparently.
I hope my flurry of posts hasn't discouraged people from writing their own films in. There's space for more in all four phases, plus there's nothing preventing a Phase 5! Feel free to use the post-credits slot in "RAMBLING BAND" to set it up if you need the space.
I've had fun. ^_^ I hope you have too.
hS
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That'd make sense! by
on 2021-09-26 10:47:04 UTC
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They've got ties to OFUs and Factories so it would make sense, plus in the original heist joke E was also technically floated as part of the infiltration team.
And no worries; thoughts at midnight are not always the most coherent!
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When I started this... by
on 2021-09-26 10:17:34 UTC
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... all of, um, three days ago... I meant to make a first post and then let other people explore ideas. Only then I had more ideas, and they just sort of... spiralled, and now I'm putting together the posters to share Phase 4 this afternoon.
Which is a roundabout way of saying I've written myself out of a space to add any new agents; heck, I've unceremoniously dropped half the ones I had already! But if you've got ideas for a film based on what you've done with them (or plan to), please, please share it! I shouldn't be doing all the writing here. :D
(I wouldn't put anyone else's agent into a romantic relationship unless they suggested it, by the way. I haven't even gone for Agent/Dis, and in my head that's practically canon.)
hS
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Why do you think... by
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... the first film costars a Chinese vampire? All about the PRC money, my friends.
I'd hope I'm not parodying too strongly, though. I've mostly avoided detail in the Jenni/Jacques/whoever parts because I can't follow what the two of you are thinking, and don't want to contradict either of you.
hS
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Ehh, not so much. by
on 2021-09-26 10:11:58 UTC
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Well, not in this specific case. Sorry, I was writing at about midnight, my thoughts don't always come out well.
The key factor in which ships made it into my version of the PPCCUU is... who asked first. XD Dafydd/Constance was a given, and then Sergio suggested that his stuff would fit well, and Nesh brought up Jenni/Jacques and Jenni/Nume. That's the only reason they're in there. ^_^ E/C probably would have been if you'd brought it up before Jacques (or, well, you did, but mentioned it as an "off to the side" thing).
In the spirit of retcons... I'm wondering about the possibility of E&C being undercover PPC agents in OFUM. It's not too far off some of the things you've done with them, and it would help connect that film back to the rest of the PPCCUU. Given Lina and Gimli's matchmaking subplot in the story, maybe she tries to get them together, not knowing that they aren't ordinary students like her. :D
hS
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Nume/LSY is... incredible. by
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So cracky. I love it. It's like Hawkeye's sudden wife and child popping out of nowhere :'D
Now, see, a nice polycule would be ideal, but knowing what the PPCCUU is parodying, I don't think the hypothetical executive producers are very interested in pursuing that line of thought. They want, after all, these films to make it big in Mainland China!
Catch the films getting banned anyway because someone in the cast made disparaging remarks about the gov't.So it's quite possible Jenni/Jacques is endgame and Nume/LSY happens to pave the way for it to happen, and then everyone in fandom decided the studio are cowards and writing them as a big polycule anyway (see: Steve/Bucky/Tony).
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Oh the intrig by
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It's all shoruhgded in mystery! What will happend next?
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Plot twist: the quadrangle resolves with Nume/LSY. {X D by
on 2021-09-26 01:45:07 UTC
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(The fans are still whinging about character butchery. {; P )
Actually, since hS perhaps deliberately chose the words "emotional arc" rather than "romantic arc" to describe the situation between Nume, Jenni, and Jacques, that could simply mean Jenni is having Many Feelings about everyone being back and therefore is going "look, Jacques, I really like you, I really want this to be a thing, but I have to deal with this other stuff right now..."
This coming on top of whatever shenanigans take place with the Bonneverse, which could be anything and everything. {X D So, yeah, they're FitzSimmons. They want to be together; the audience wants them to be together; but events keep eventuating at them and making it Difficult. But there's still room for the various relationships to stabilize as a nice polycule eventually. ^_^
~Neshomeh
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Oh yes! Meant to bring that up in my initial comment. by
on 2021-09-26 00:53:02 UTC
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We can have all the crossover continuity between the films and shows as we want!
Also, considering the PPC was "built" primarily for mission stories, it really is amazing what a diversity of events it and the OFUs have featured over the years, to be able to construct this massive continuity around!
—doctorlit, excited
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*offers Agents Thalia and Doom for use* by
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They’re new, but eh, I guess you could do something with them. Or use them as comic relief/side characters. Anyway, they’re up for grabs (also Thalia is pansexual, so please keep that in mind if you choose to give her a romantic partner)
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That's actually kinda funny, by
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because the will-they-won't-they thing was in canon a mild background joke to help sorta... highlight that they're handling BBC Sherlock Sues for a good portion of the missions that were published for them? I basically accidentally les yay'ed them into a couple :P
That being said, that does sorta suggest that where your memory is concerned, M/F fades more easily into the background while F/F stands out? Because for me, Jacques/Jenni is very relationship-focused, but that's possibly because I've only read interludes for them, and the interludes are very shippy ;P E/C are a lot more toned-down in comparison -- they didn't even have any on-screen kissing back in 2013. I don't want to imply anything -- just perhaps pointing out that it's easier for M/F couples to be stuck onscreen together and have people assume they're going to get together, and if a M/F couple is background radiation in a film/story that is otherwise non-romantic, it's a bit more accepted as-is whereas people have to get in-your-face confirmation for F/F and M/M because the default in our society is currently to assume they're just close friends first?
Hahaha I don't mind them in the hole; I'm sure Eledhwen is helping with the cross-stitching :'D And yeah, the colliding multiverses is a thing in IAHF2. I've backdoor resolved that in the E/C fixit thing I have on AO3 but since the relevant chapters haven't been released yet, feel free to poke me on Discord for the TL;DR of the resolution.
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Maybe a bit. ^_~ by
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Mostly though, the multiple M/F couples (Dafydd/Constance, Jenni/Jacques, Sergio/Nikki, and I bet I've forgotten some) are because I'm not adding films where the romance is the primary plot (Pyro 2 is the slight exception, because I'm allowed one moment of self-geekery) and I'm working purely from memory. The big F/F ships I can remember are E/C and Ixilottie, and for both of them, their relationship is /the thing/ I remember. Sure, E&C did all sorts of stuff, but "will they won't they" is the one in my head.
Actually rereading some prominent agents would give a very different PPCCUU, I know that. It would probably have Indemaat's agents in, for starters! But this whole thing has been shaped by, essentially, the first 3 ideas to pop into my head, and then what people have suggested since.
(Fun fact: INTELLIGENCE was going to star Architeuthis, because I thought a properly early Agent would be good to have. But I vaguely remembered the existence of (Un)Intelligence, found out it involved Gaspard, and saw a mention of him being spooked by a Factory... turned out it had nothing to do with the League, but the plot wrote itself from there.)
hS
Edit: also, I feel like I've cribbed from you /a lot/: Agent & Dis, the OFU infiltrator, Jacques, Phase 3 being heavily influenced by the colliding multiverses thing you had at one OFU. I'm doing my best to spread the spotlight, so E&C are in the same hole as most of my agents. I'm sure it's a very nice hole, however, and Kaitlyn has probably put some quirky cross-stitch on the wall.
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My contribution by
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O'Ryan is not allowed to have a real lightsaber.
-Or a real sword
-Or a gun
-Or anything from the PPC armory, in general. He's allowed to keep his scythe from that one Mary Sue, though.
Kittyauthor is not allowed to wear her Lucian cloak. It's too big for her. Do not convince her to wear it unless you want to anger O'Ryan.
-Although O'Ryan can.
-Crow cannot, for the same reason Kitty cannot.
O'Ryan is no longer allowed to hold grenades.
-At this point, it's clear he's a jinx and shouldn't hold anything remotely explosive, exluding CADs. So don't give him explosive stuff.
(Edit: Included "you" in statements since this is a list about things I am not allowed to do.)
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Incredible. by
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Given the rainbow theme of the show, I think it's also a very LGBTQ++ one. (And that's not just because I've realised that all of the romances mentioned so far have been straight!)
That sounds almost like a call-out of Disney constantly saying "yes, this side character that you'll just blink and see for 2 seconds is our first openly LGBTQ+ character, aren't we great and progressive?" so, uh, the general foregrounding of M/F couples is a bit on-theme :P
So if the FicPsych film is "Into the Bonneverse" and Jenni's dealing with her Old Flame coming back and complicating things, Jacques can deal with a cross-dimensional Old Flame of his own in the form of Liu Siyuan. Who, by the sounds of it, would probably be that hot but slightly batshit and very easily jealous ex (might even be one of the antagonists of the Into the Bonneverse? He's destroying the walls of reality so he can get Jacques back and keeps landing in AU timelines?) that Jacques has to properly dump in order to be with Jenni, though most viewers are Tired of love quadrangles and would just rather Jenni and Jacques be their canon selves and set up a polycule ;P
ETA: I'd also like to direct your eyeballs to a now non-canon blurb I wrote a while back about Christianne getting Bad Wolfed into becoming a Time Lord. Maybe that could be of some use in phase 4, especially if you're looking for a Time Lord plot + E/C were already the background blink-and-you'll-miss-it gay rep in the Factory films ;P