Subject: Looks good! (nm)
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Posted on: 2023-03-08 00:51:49 UTC
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Someone from FANDOM just went through and deleted some pages. by
on 2023-03-07 22:24:07 UTC
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Some of them were kinda pointless, like the Chaser Wolf page. But now the Celebrian and Rose Potter pages have been deleted.
I think we need to fix this.
-Ls
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Question on NSFW issues... by
on 2023-03-11 04:59:20 UTC
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Is the main NSFW issue at hand sexuality, or are other topics included too? Checking through the NSFW category and Legendary Badfics, I noted that Cupcakes is on there, and was curious if that might pose a problem and is something we should look into, or if it's fine.
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So far, just sexuality. (Typical, right?) by
on 2023-03-11 05:13:05 UTC
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But, like all the Legendary articles, "Cupcakes" should equally be rewritten to discuss the mission, not the badfic. Please feel free to volunteer!
~Neshomeh
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I'll give it a go in the morning! by
on 2023-03-11 05:49:44 UTC
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I might also have a look at Not There, which I think could be made less explicit, hopefully enough to avoid problems.
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What Now? Part 3: NSFW topics. by
on 2023-03-11 01:29:58 UTC
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Honestly the potential loss of the Dubious Lube page makes me sad... [might be straying into TMI] by
on 2023-03-11 22:21:57 UTC
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Right with you. by
on 2023-03-12 05:45:01 UTC
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I would absolutely be in favor of preserving the Dubious Lube article by
on 2023-03-11 05:17:27 UTC
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I agree that it's hilarious, and the suggestion on plausible alternatives is quite interesting. Historical fun facts woo! I might ask- would it be plausible to link your archive on the wiki? I haven't been on the Board in some time, and I didn't actually know about the archive.
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Just throwing another option out for Dubious Lube: by
on 2023-03-11 14:42:23 UTC
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I'm on board! by
on 2023-03-12 04:58:58 UTC
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Come to think of it, there are plenty of things that need lubrication to function well. Wheel axles, hinges, all sorts of machine parts, the proverbial greased pig... {= D
~Neshomeh
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It... already is? by
on 2023-03-11 05:46:07 UTC
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Ah, my mistake by
on 2023-03-11 05:52:37 UTC
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It didn't occur to me that that would be on the user page, for some reason. Welp, thanks for letting me know! I do think the archive having its own page would make sense for easier searchability but I also completely understand that being a low priority, both in terms of life and in terms of the current doings.
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I have gone through the Unclaimed Badfic list to remove FANDOM-unfriendly links. by
on 2023-03-10 18:17:08 UTC
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I'm worried that I just cut it in half.
-Ls
Edit: I went through the Unclaimed list, goshdangit! Doesn't mean I'm not working my way through Claimed too.
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NSFW badfics could be put on a gdoc. by
on 2023-03-10 23:24:50 UTC
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If NSFW content can't be linked in FANDOM, perhaps they could be placed on a publically editable gdoc, then posted and pinned on the Discord server. That way, people can post or claim them without having to deal with FANDOM's TOS.
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I... was just removing easily gotten rid of rule-breaking content. by
on 2023-03-10 23:51:43 UTC
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Let's leave links to missions alone for now. by
on 2023-03-11 00:36:59 UTC
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To clarify: by
on 2023-03-11 00:55:20 UTC
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I vouch for keeping both, only removing outdated claims by
on 2023-03-11 13:47:05 UTC
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I think of the unclaimed list as a wishlist for those who want to see a fic missioned but either don't want to write a mission themselves or can't (not having Permission etc.)
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Clarification: Not what I was suggesting. by
on 2023-03-11 04:34:34 UTC
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That sounds good; it'll certainly accomplish the "no direct links" rule. (nm) by
on 2023-03-14 03:10:49 UTC
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That is a very good idea. (nm) by
on 2023-03-11 16:38:57 UTC
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And also put it on the Board header, perhaps? by
on 2023-03-10 23:33:41 UTC
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For folks who don't use Discord like me.
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What Now? Part 2: Pages about community members. by
on 2023-03-09 17:10:58 UTC
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Extremely tangential question, but uh . . . by
on 2023-03-28 04:26:38 UTC
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I'm in the midst of switching "Kippur" to "User:Kippur," but while doing so, I noticed the glossary is currently attributing Agent Taboo as a Kippur character. That doesn't sound right, does it? When I was doing that big edit spree tracking down all Kippur's PPC stories years ago, I don't recall seeing Taboo get mentioned anywhere on Kippur's many, many, MANY websites. But I'm also very ready for bed, and can't look into it further at the moment. Can anyone confirm a known author for Taboo?
—doctorlit doesn't have time to write a joke in this signature
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Huh. I'm not sure. by
on 2023-03-28 05:16:00 UTC
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Waaaaaait, what? by
on 2023-03-28 08:05:23 UTC
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Whoops. ^_^; by
on 2023-03-28 15:17:55 UTC
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Six Degrees of Jay Thorntree by
on 2023-03-10 15:55:46 UTC
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I... dunno. by
on 2023-03-10 16:56:00 UTC
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Also Agent Dead, a.k.a. Miss Cam! by
on 2023-03-10 16:53:15 UTC
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So playing around with this... by
on 2023-03-10 17:06:15 UTC
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Different Six Degrees link by
on 2023-03-11 18:48:27 UTC
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Still playing Six Degrees. by
on 2023-03-11 22:15:44 UTC
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Six Degrees of Amusement by
on 2023-03-13 11:15:14 UTC
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There's a link missing here! by
on 2023-03-14 14:38:53 UTC
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Firemagic cowrote with me - quite a few times, actually! Two missions, one of which was releaves as a tw-parter, and an interlude. And I might be forgetting something else.
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Always the graph keeps growing. by
on 2023-03-14 16:51:16 UTC
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It is quite weird that I'm apparently the only link Astal Void has. (nm) by
on 2023-03-16 15:30:20 UTC
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It's all a little vague. by
on 2023-03-16 16:24:46 UTC
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Still growing! by
on 2023-03-15 11:14:42 UTC
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We're still finding more RPs and cowrites. This morning I've finally found something to link Araeph into the cluster, rather than having her way out on the end of a dubious chain; and I'm considering how to deal with character journals, which might need their own colour. The full version of the graph is here; every shortest chain still runs through Deepy, though with a couple of RPs in place you might find your path goes through either Leto or kippur to get there. I think Specs is still the furthest from Jay.
hS
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Yep, still expanding. by
on 2023-03-16 12:22:47 UTC
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I'm faintly pleased and also disturbed... by
on 2023-03-16 16:51:47 UTC
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... to see myself as the spider at the center of the web. {X D
Actually, the whole thing looks a bit spider-shaped at the moment. Funny!
~Neshomeh
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I kinda want to use it as a star map. by
on 2023-03-17 11:53:27 UTC
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Ooh, that's fun. ^_^ by
on 2023-03-18 02:32:39 UTC
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Spider-Nesh, Spider-Nesh, she can cowrite anything a spider can! by
on 2023-03-16 17:27:46 UTC
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...Actually, much more than a spider can.
-Ls
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Depends on the spider. by
on 2023-03-16 18:48:11 UTC
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Sudden thought: How does Multiverse Monitor stuff factor in? by
on 2023-03-13 12:10:12 UTC
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Since that could technically count as co-writing, though at least for the NMM it was mostly me compiling everyone's articles...
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I thought about that. by
on 2023-03-13 13:00:43 UTC
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Did Trojie not co-write with Sara? by
on 2023-03-14 05:40:43 UTC
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Sara wrote with Tawaki once. by
on 2023-03-14 16:53:41 UTC
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Uh, SC and KittyNoodles are siblings. That's why they were close. (nm) by
on 2023-03-13 21:05:01 UTC
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Hmmm, co-written articles? by
on 2023-03-13 13:21:44 UTC
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That's definitely me and Zing with the Troupe By Any Other Name folks, then. And I think also firemagic on some of the NMM articles (thinking about the Spock interview, for example).
I guess it's kinda FOMO-inducing for me because I do have cowrites, even in the more traditional sense of the word! But they're all unpublished, haha.
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Right??! by
on 2023-03-13 14:49:38 UTC
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Added myself by
on 2023-03-11 17:43:40 UTC
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I think that's five degrees for me?
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As hS pointed out to me, it's not a live link. (nm) by
on 2023-03-11 18:00:54 UTC
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Ooh, interesting. by
on 2023-03-10 19:10:08 UTC
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I had calcolated I was in a four degree separation, with the link being through your chain. by
on 2023-03-10 17:49:12 UTC
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I have added myself. Hope that's okay. -Ls (nm) by
on 2023-03-10 17:28:16 UTC
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It's not a live link. ^_~ by
on 2023-03-10 20:59:49 UTC
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The link I posted is actually stupidly long, because it includes the full text of the entire code for the graph. The only way you can add yourself is by getting a new link (I think it was at top right) and posting it yourself.
Please use HTML or Markup if you do that. I wasn't kidding about stupidly long.
hS
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So if I count an RP with Bookworm... by
on 2023-03-10 17:11:34 UTC
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...I have Five Degrees from Jay Thorntree, from Bookworm, Nesh/hS, kippur, Dee, and Jay.
Right?
-Ls
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I am not sure what mine is, but I did participate in WikDiv, if that counts. by
on 2023-03-10 16:23:53 UTC
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I also did a cowritten interlude with Hidany, so that might count for something. Has Hidany done any other cowrites?
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I'll do Miss Cam and Evil Bob. (nm) by
on 2023-03-09 20:05:18 UTC
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Aw, I wanted Miss Cam :'( by
on 2023-03-09 23:36:02 UTC
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She's one of my oldest fandom friends. But if you've already got to the page then that's fine.
I might also be able to get Leto Haven, since he's my PG. Maybe Meir Brin, too?
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I'll tackle bjam and Al's Waiter. by
on 2023-03-09 23:00:58 UTC
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Bjam was one of my best friends, and I've adopted both her character and AW's. I might tackle Bast as well - Pretty sure all her appearances are under my aegis at this point.
EDIT: And Thals, on my wife's behalf. This is how we remember our friends.
hS
- Hail the Grey Lady, and may her Most Holy Hat be kept spiffy-looking. by on 2023-03-24 15:02:36 UTC Reply
- As is Evil Bob's page. by on 2023-03-24 16:15:21 UTC Reply
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Thanks for staying on this, folks! by
on 2023-03-26 22:39:07 UTC
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Actually the Members List for her temple is really useful. by
on 2023-03-24 15:12:12 UTC
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It establishes a whole swathe of Boarder names as existing in HQ. Notably Andy and Saphie, but also BeautyID (who wrote the poem at the top of our Constitution) and a couple of others. If there are real people we want to legitimately name on the Wiki, the list lets us do it.
hS
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Thals is first-pass done. by
on 2023-03-10 11:21:37 UTC
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Looks good! by
on 2023-03-10 16:34:26 UTC
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Quick clarification: by
on 2023-03-10 16:41:02 UTC
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I am actually quite bad on that "characters with the same name" front XD by
on 2023-03-10 18:01:46 UTC
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Oh, right, I was forgetting about the one who is a canon character, too! by
on 2023-03-10 22:08:50 UTC
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I think we'll be okay. by
on 2023-03-09 19:07:36 UTC
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Never mind, didn't recognize an acronym. by
on 2023-03-09 20:15:01 UTC
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What Now? Part 1: What to do about the Legendaries? by
on 2023-03-09 15:35:59 UTC
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A lot of the Bleepfic also falls under this. by
on 2023-03-11 16:43:34 UTC
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Speaking of Bleepfic, I think THE RIGHT MATE AT THE RIGHT TIME page should just be deleted. The mission mostly focuses on the horrible pacing and with good reason, but part of why I made that page in the first place was that a lot of hilarious nonsense happens after the mission ends. I'm open to suggestions.
On another note: That Series is long, spanning several missions by different authors. I'm up for reading through them again, but I'd like some help with it. Is anyone else up for reading a lot of missions into horrible yiff over the next however long and summarizing it for posterity? I know I just made it sound like an irresistible opportunity. XD
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Re. That Series, it's okay to keep it simple for now. by
on 2023-03-12 05:21:54 UTC
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I'll at least take care of "Agony in Pink," since July isn't here anymore. by
on 2023-03-09 20:36:16 UTC
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(As well as anything else I can find the time for.)
I'm positive I have a folder of dramatic reading audio at home, but I'm at work right now. I'll have to check later . . .
doctorlit is flossing, and isn't going to code the emdash today
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Ah, I see why I thought there were more dramatic readings than there actually are. by
on 2023-03-10 12:29:07 UTC
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I've already gone over Agony in Pink. by
on 2023-03-09 20:39:58 UTC
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You can still check it yourself, of course.
-Ls
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I also went over My Immortal. by
on 2023-03-09 20:48:06 UTC
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If Ix or someone else wants to go over my changes there too, please feel free to do so.
-Ls
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Er, did you read my above proposal for the Legendary Badfic pages? by
on 2023-03-09 21:31:59 UTC
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Do you have any examples of a "mission page"? by
on 2023-03-10 14:06:40 UTC
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Okay, example mission page! by
on 2023-03-12 00:38:56 UTC
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Trying a different, different approach. by
on 2023-04-03 05:48:54 UTC
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Trying a different approach. by
on 2023-03-12 11:51:08 UTC
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I mostly like that. by
on 2023-03-12 16:40:11 UTC
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Oh yeah, there's definite room for improvement. by
on 2023-03-12 16:58:33 UTC
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I put this together with kids bouncing around in the background, so it's very much a rough go. I'll fiddle with the structure and the charge list when I get a chance/brain. I just wanted to get something in place. You're lucky the Mission section didn't come out as bullet points!
hS
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Haha, fair enough! (nm) by
on 2023-03-12 17:26:53 UTC
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My style of writing mission pages might be even shorter 🤣 (nm) by
on 2023-03-12 12:10:00 UTC
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For the record, we won't make a page for every mission that exists. by
on 2023-03-12 16:13:59 UTC
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Looks great, I'll try making a page (nm) by
on 2023-03-12 03:06:40 UTC
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I see you have! by
on 2023-03-12 04:53:22 UTC
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Now, how about working on some of the badfic or Sue pages that need to be converted to mission pages?
~Neshomeh
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I'll try (nm) by
on 2023-03-12 04:57:28 UTC
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Er. No, not yet. ^_^; Here's what I'm thinking... by
on 2023-03-10 16:16:12 UTC
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Ah, ok. by
on 2023-03-09 21:56:03 UTC
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I would also prefer not to move stuff onto Fanlore, by
on 2023-03-09 23:55:46 UTC
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The beacon has been lit - Neshomeh calls for aid! by
on 2023-03-09 16:04:20 UTC
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The Bookworm would fain send aid as well, but is oath-bound to stay in the Federation of Academia... by
on 2023-03-09 20:26:52 UTC
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until near midsummer.
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And Huinesoron will answer, it seems! {= D by
on 2023-03-09 16:38:28 UTC
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"legolas by laura" lives! by
on 2023-03-09 19:19:32 UTC
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I found my copy of the video, and was actually able to upload the full-size version now - 48 MB rather than the 8 MB version that was all Youtube could take back in the day. (Theoretically we could go up to 300 MB if I used the original .AVI files, but that's going a bit too far, don't you think?)
hS
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Don't forget the My Immortal reading. (nm) by
on 2023-03-09 16:48:56 UTC
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I'll have to see if I still have a saved copy. by
on 2023-03-09 16:47:54 UTC
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What slightly older inactive Boarder are you secretly, hS? (nm) by
on 2023-03-09 23:52:53 UTC
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I don't know what you're talking about. by
on 2023-03-10 00:13:46 UTC
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High Priest Dafydd of the Temple of GreyLadyBast (all hail her Most Holy Hat) can definitely vouch that I'm not her, if that's what you're asking. >.>
hS
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I bet Nesh has already seen this, but Kimberton has replied. by
on 2023-03-08 18:07:06 UTC
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-Ls
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Oh Eru looks like we've violated the ToS (panics) by
on 2023-03-07 23:20:33 UTC
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Which means our wiki is in danger of being shut down.
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Stop that. It's neither helpful nor true. (nm) by
on 2023-03-07 23:24:28 UTC
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I'm sorry by
on 2023-03-07 23:35:35 UTC
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These pages had the same content that that lead TV Tropes to almost die, so I'm a bit afraid.
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Fortunately, we have a magical thing called an Edit button. {= ) by
on 2023-03-07 23:46:06 UTC
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Sorry for snapping at you, but I'm still a little sick, and wiki BS two days in a row is frustrating enough without having to stop the sky falling, too. This is fixable. Please remain calm.
~Neshomeh
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I'm on it. (nm) by
on 2023-03-07 22:30:14 UTC
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What's Actually Happening: Cliff's Notes by
on 2023-03-07 23:41:31 UTC
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FANDOM staff's response by
on 2023-03-08 18:13:20 UTC
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I can see where else they could be coming from by
on 2023-03-09 03:21:08 UTC
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So there are alternatives by
on 2023-03-08 19:32:40 UTC
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Like wikidot, etc... there are many different wiki providers. Miraheze looks the most promising because it's free, noncommercial, and runs MediaWiki, just like fandom, to minimize transition pain.
Of course we can also self-host but I don't think that's practically viable right now for cost and especially time reasons.
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In the meantime, I think by
on 2023-03-09 06:33:42 UTC
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we should still create a mirror/backup wiki anyway, just in case.
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Their content policy looks more reasonable re. NSFW topics... by
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Update: I have a text-only XML backup of the wiki. by
on 2023-03-09 03:36:10 UTC
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That includes revisions, but does not include images. Images will need to be backed up separately. Joy.
~Neshomeh
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There are alternatives. by
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I admit the "Celebrian" page was more detailed than it needed to be... by
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Considering that we have user pages, which are publicly editable, it's just absurd. by
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Oh, absolutely. by
on 2023-03-08 21:30:49 UTC
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siiiiigh by
on 2023-03-08 03:11:45 UTC
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Well, the Hermione troll did get a newbie who found the wiki and wanted to join. by
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Hi by
on 2023-03-08 22:19:32 UTC
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Yep, I was fighting that troll, found this place, and here I am.
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Hello! by
on 2023-03-09 00:51:10 UTC
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Nice to see you've decided to drop by the Board!
Feel free to introduce yourself in a new thread so you can get the traditional PPC welcome wagon free from distractions. ^_^
~Neshomeh
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Hi! Welcome aBoard! by
on 2023-03-08 23:06:52 UTC
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Traditionally, we hand out newbie gifts, so here--have a purple duckling. It is very adorable.
-Ls
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I added a new picture for Rose Potter in the images section by
on 2023-03-08 00:05:12 UTC
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I gave her vaguely druid-like clothes so Fandom can’t complain.
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Looks good! (nm) by
on 2023-03-08 00:51:49 UTC
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Thank you! That looks pretty good. However... by
on 2023-03-08 00:19:37 UTC
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Since it's going in an infobox, can you please replace the existing image with one that is 300px tall?
Unless it's been fixed since I last looked, tall images break infoboxes. {= /
~Neshomeh
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The Inheritance Wiki even has a page on Paolini. by
on 2023-03-07 23:46:14 UTC
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Not sure why they're allowed to have one, but we're not.
-Ls
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Not to mention, y'know, all our other author pages. /rolls eyes heavily/ (nm) by
on 2023-03-07 23:49:10 UTC
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Maybe we should do something about the Chaser Wolf page? by
on 2023-03-07 23:55:24 UTC
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It counted as a Bleepfic. We might just need to edit the Bleepfic page to remove the link.
-Ls
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Yeah, for sure. Any links to deleted pages will need cleaning up. (nm) by
on 2023-03-08 00:04:10 UTC
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Also, Squirrelking is pretty notable. by
on 2023-03-08 00:51:34 UTC
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We could at least put up the page as "halflife fulllife consequences" or some such.
-Ls